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Old October 15th 03, 10:14 PM
Rob van Riel
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"tscottme" wrote in message ...
perfect for them. Oh well they aren't living 500 years in the past by
accident.


You do realise you're talking about a nation that is building its own
jet powered fighters, don't you. If that's their version of 1500 AD,
I'd really like to see how advanced they'll be when they catch up with
the rest of the world chronologically.


Too bad Iran is actively trying to get nukes and spreading terrorism in
the meantime.


Good idea, trying to get their own nukes, as there are several nuclear
tipped nations making nasty threats against them. We'll talk about the
terrorism bit after you dig up some some reliable (that is, in this
case, not US government sponsored) evidence of that.


Maybe we can reach an agreement with the mullahs where
the Iranians only attack Europeans while Americans go back to ignoring
the world.


I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or
that of Americans, for that matter.
On the other hand, I've heard plenty of Americans screaming for
theirs. I'm sure there's a conclusion in those observations, but I'll
ignore it for now.

Rob
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Old October 17th 03, 03:00 PM
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Rob van Riel wrote in message
om...
"tscottme" wrote in message

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perfect for them. Oh well they aren't living 500 years in the past

by
accident.


You do realise you're talking about a nation that is building its own
jet powered fighters, don't you. If that's their version of 1500 AD,
I'd really like to see how advanced they'll be when they catch up with
the rest of the world chronologically.


Too bad Iran is actively trying to get nukes and spreading terrorism

in
the meantime.


Good idea, trying to get their own nukes, as there are several nuclear
tipped nations making nasty threats against them. We'll talk about the
terrorism bit after you dig up some some reliable (that is, in this
case, not US government sponsored) evidence of that.


Maybe we can reach an agreement with the mullahs where
the Iranians only attack Europeans while Americans go back to

ignoring
the world.


I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or
that of Americans, for that matter.
On the other hand, I've heard plenty of Americans screaming for
theirs. I'm sure there's a conclusion in those observations, but I'll
ignore it for now.

Rob


Do you know anyone that disputes Iranian support for Hizbollah? You
remember Hizbollah, the organization that had killed more Americans than
any other terrorist group prior to Sept 11.

Simply being ignorant of the rantings of the Iranian mullahs is not
exactly the same as they not making the threats.


--

Scott
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"Interestingly, we started to lose this war only after the embedded
reporters pulled out. Back when we got the news directly from Iraq,
there was victory and optimism. Now that the news is filtered through
the mainstream media here in America, all we hear is death and
destruction and quagmire..." Ann Coulter
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2003/091703.htm


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Old October 20th 03, 10:07 AM
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"tscottme" wrote in message ...
Rob van Riel wrote in message
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I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or
that of Americans, for that matter.
On the other hand, I've heard plenty of Americans screaming for
theirs. I'm sure there's a conclusion in those observations, but I'll
ignore it for now.


Do you know anyone that disputes Iranian support for Hizbollah? You
remember Hizbollah, the organization that had killed more Americans than
any other terrorist group prior to Sept 11.

Simply being ignorant of the rantings of the Iranian mullahs is not
exactly the same as they not making the threats.


I never said they appreciated the existence of Israel, or that they
didn't support groups dedicated to fighting Israel by unsavoury means.
Nor am I ignorant of the fact that Hizbollah caused considerable US
casualties. What do you expect them to do? Not follow the "supporters
of my enemy are my enemies" doctrine? The US seems to have no problem
with that reasoning.

None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there
have been no calls for the destruction of the US.

Rob
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Old October 20th 03, 11:27 AM
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"Rob van Riel" wrote in message
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I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or
that of Americans, for that matter.


And, then:

None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there
have been no calls for the destruction of the US.

Rob


I don't think you have been *listening*, Rob. For instance, in
'91...Afghani Mulla (and a Taleban leader) Mohammad Omar
chatted with the BBC. Among other things, he said:

"You (the BBC) and American puppet radios have created concern. But the
current situation in Afghanistan is related to a bigger cause - that is the
destruction of America."

And:

"This is not a matter of weapons. We are hopeful for God's help. The real
matter is the extinction of America. And, God willing, it [America] will
fall to the ground."


Cheers.





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Old October 21st 03, 11:05 AM
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"PosterBoy" wrote in message news:AMOkb.133271$6C4.20947@pd7tw1no...
"Rob van Riel" wrote in message
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I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently. Or
that of Americans, for that matter.


And, then:

None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there
have been no calls for the destruction of the US.

Rob


I don't think you have been *listening*, Rob. For instance, in
'91...Afghani Mulla (and a Taleban leader) Mohammad Omar
chatted with the BBC. Among other things, he said:

some murederous comments snipped

That was 12 years ago, and in a different country. Things have changed
since then in Iran. There's little doubt the Iranian religious
establishment dislikes the US, but they have become more reasonable
about it, and about many other things as well.

The Taliban decided to stick to the rabid dog act, but they weren't
the subject of this discussion.

Rob
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Old October 22nd 03, 01:24 AM
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"Rob van Riel" wrote in message
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"PosterBoy" wrote in message

news:AMOkb.133271$6C4.20947@pd7tw1no...
"Rob van Riel" wrote in message
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I can't recall hearing any mullah screaming for my blood recently.

Or
that of Americans, for that matter.


And, then:

None of this has any relevance to the fact that in recent years, there
have been no calls for the destruction of the US.

Rob


I don't think you have been *listening*, Rob. For instance, in
'91...Afghani Mulla (and a Taleban leader) Mohammad Omar
chatted with the BBC. Among other things, he said:

some murederous comments snipped

That was 12 years ago,


Sorry; my typo, Rob.
It was in November, 2001...not in "'91", as I typed. So definitely "in
recent years." Definitely. And Mullah Krekar is still at it...despite the
Dutch deportation and the Norwegian charges.
Please begin again. (And...you specified no particular country in your
"screaming mullah" remark. I figger when you say "any" you mean "any"...not
some.)

Cheers.


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Old October 22nd 03, 09:11 AM
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"PosterBoy" wrote in message news:h7klb.140399$9l5.84204@pd7tw2no...
Sorry; my typo, Rob.
It was in November, 2001...not in "'91", as I typed. So definitely "in
recent years." Definitely. And Mullah Krekar is still at it...despite the
Dutch deportation and the Norwegian charges.


Like I said, the Taliban never improved their act, and are probably as
bloodthirsty as ever.

Please begin again. (And...you specified no particular country in your
"screaming mullah" remark. I figger when you say "any" you mean "any"...not
some.)


Nope, given the context of the original post I replied to, which was
about Iran, not the muslim world as a whole if such an entity even
exists, my remark meant 'any from the Iranian establishment'. To the
best of my knowledge, that statement is correct, ie. the Iranian
government, including those of religious rank, have over the last
decade become more and more moderate in their relations with the
outside world, and have not been calling for the destruction of the US
or any other nation or group in recent years.

Rob
 




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