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Old November 1st 07, 11:46 AM posted to aus.aviation,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
Sylvia Else
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Default Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation

Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
Ned wrote in :

Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Popular Mechanics David Noland October 13, 2007


The list doesn't mention one single crash that happened outside of
North America. Is that a reflex of the worldview of American media? I
would have thought that the Tenerife disaster made an impact.


Tenerife was in part a failure to apply CRM - an arrogant captain
overruled the doubts of his first officer about whether the runway was
clear, when the obvious thing would have been to check.

Other than "don't do that," and the utility of ground radar was anything
learned?

Sylvia.
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Old November 1st 07, 01:33 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation

Sylvia Else wrote:
Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
Ned wrote in :

Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Popular Mechanics David Noland October 13, 2007


The list doesn't mention one single crash that happened outside of
North America. Is that a reflex of the worldview of American media? I
would have thought that the Tenerife disaster made an impact.


Tenerife was in part a failure to apply CRM - an arrogant captain
overruled the doubts of his first officer about whether the runway was
clear, when the obvious thing would have been to check.

Other than "don't do that," and the utility of ground radar was anything
learned?

"The primary safety message drawn from the accident was the
urgent need to improve communication between aircraft and
Tower. Such communications lagged far behind the fail-safe
principle applied to other aspects of aviation. Radio
communication, as it existed at Los Rodeos Airport on the
day of the accident, was not fail-safe.

Operational measures recommended for immediate adoption as a
short term improvement included:

* The use of concise and unambiguous terminology.

* Avoiding the expression "takeoff' in airways clearances.

* Allowing a distinct time interval between the
transmission of an airways clearance and a takeoff clearance.

These recommendations were referred to the Air Navigation
Commission of the International Civil Aviation Organization
(ICAO) for study."

Air Disaster Vol 1 Mac Job ISBN 1 875671 11 0
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Old November 1st 07, 07:00 PM posted to aus.aviation,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.piloting
Jim Stewart
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Default Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation

Sylvia Else wrote:
Wolfgang Schwanke wrote:
Ned wrote in :

Ten Plane Crashes That Changed Aviation
Popular Mechanics David Noland October 13, 2007


The list doesn't mention one single crash that happened outside of
North America. Is that a reflex of the worldview of American media? I
would have thought that the Tenerife disaster made an impact.


Tenerife was in part a failure to apply CRM - an arrogant captain
overruled the doubts of his first officer about whether the runway was
clear, when the obvious thing would have been to check.

Other than "don't do that," and the utility of ground radar was anything
learned?


That the tower crew shouldn't be listening
to a soccer playoff while working?

 




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