Product Liability Suits Force Shipment Ceasation Of MSA Carburetors Used On Lycoming, Continental and Franklin Engines

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Welcome to the future of General Aviation in the United States.
Before the lawyers are through, there won't be a company willing to
invest in a product anywhere in the United States....and this isn't
just in aviation either.

Health care, as well as other business with deep pockets has been,
and will be targeted until it collapses under the weight of
litigation and/or fear of litigation.
When you have a gullible and greedy public being steered and used by
lawyers willing to literally destroy businesses, lives, and fortunes
in order to divert these assets into their own coffers, this is what
you will get.
DH

Yes, when they went after cigarettes, we did nothing as we thought
cigarettes were bad.

When they went after asbestos we did nothing as we thought asbestos
was bad.

Now they are coming after us...

And now they are rich from their wins against tobacco and asbestos and
will keep on going from target to target.


Matt


There's a huge push ad running on the national airwaves right now by a
legal firm stating that the credit card companies don't want you to know
that you can pay off what you owe them with 1/10 of what is due. They
encourage you not to declare bankruptcy but rather to engage them to
arrange a "settlement" with the credit card company.
This firm is literally encouraging people to defraud the credit card
companies.
Naturally the result of this will be the firm taking a healthy fee from
those using their "services" to screw the credit card company, and the
credit card company in turn, to offset their losses and legal fees, will
immediately pass this cost on to other users of their cards; those who
actually pay their just bills.
Amazing! You just have to LOVE what lawyers are doing to the country.

Yes, and the more they make the more they will come up with these
schemes. I don't think it will end until the lawyers have all of the
money and then have to sue each other. :-)

Matt

Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Welcome to the future of General Aviation in the United States.
Before the lawyers are through, there won't be a company willing to
invest in a product anywhere in the United States....and this isn't
just in aviation either.

Health care, as well as other business with deep pockets has been,
and will be targeted until it collapses under the weight of
litigation and/or fear of litigation.
When you have a gullible and greedy public being steered and used
by lawyers willing to literally destroy businesses, lives, and
fortunes in order to divert these assets into their own coffers,
this is what you will get.
DH

Yes, when they went after cigarettes, we did nothing as we thought
cigarettes were bad.

When they went after asbestos we did nothing as we thought asbestos
was bad.

Now they are coming after us...

And now they are rich from their wins against tobacco and asbestos
and will keep on going from target to target.


Matt


There's a huge push ad running on the national airwaves right now by a
legal firm stating that the credit card companies don't want you to
know that you can pay off what you owe them with 1/10 of what is due.
They encourage you not to declare bankruptcy but rather to engage them
to arrange a "settlement" with the credit card company.
This firm is literally encouraging people to defraud the credit card
companies.
Naturally the result of this will be the firm taking a healthy fee
from those using their "services" to screw the credit card company,
and the credit card company in turn, to offset their losses and legal
fees, will immediately pass this cost on to other users of their
cards; those who actually pay their just bills.
Amazing! You just have to LOVE what lawyers are doing to the country.

Yes, and the more they make the more they will come up with these
schemes. I don't think it will end until the lawyers have all of the
money and then have to sue each other. :-)

Matt

They're already doing that. :-)

--
Dudley Henriques

Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Welcome to the future of General Aviation in the United States.
Before the lawyers are through, there won't be a company willing to
invest in a product anywhere in the United States....and this isn't
just in aviation either.

Health care, as well as other business with deep pockets has been,
and will be targeted until it collapses under the weight of
litigation and/or fear of litigation.
When you have a gullible and greedy public being steered and used
by lawyers willing to literally destroy businesses, lives, and
fortunes in order to divert these assets into their own coffers,
this is what you will get.
DH

Yes, when they went after cigarettes, we did nothing as we thought
cigarettes were bad.

When they went after asbestos we did nothing as we thought asbestos
was bad.

Now they are coming after us...

And now they are rich from their wins against tobacco and asbestos
and will keep on going from target to target.


Matt


There's a huge push ad running on the national airwaves right now by
a legal firm stating that the credit card companies don't want you to
know that you can pay off what you owe them with 1/10 of what is due.
They encourage you not to declare bankruptcy but rather to engage
them to arrange a "settlement" with the credit card company.
This firm is literally encouraging people to defraud the credit card
companies.
Naturally the result of this will be the firm taking a healthy fee
from those using their "services" to screw the credit card company,
and the credit card company in turn, to offset their losses and legal
fees, will immediately pass this cost on to other users of their
cards; those who actually pay their just bills.
Amazing! You just have to LOVE what lawyers are doing to the country.

Yes, and the more they make the more they will come up with these
schemes. I don't think it will end until the lawyers have all of the
money and then have to sue each other. :-)

Matt

They're already doing that. :-)


But not nearly enough!!

Matt

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:

Yes, and the more they make the more they will come up with these
schemes. I don't think it will end until the lawyers have all of the
money and then have to sue each other. :-)

Matt

They're already doing that. :-)

Here's how to deal with lawyers.

http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited...fx4298368.html

"Pakistani police Monday baton-charged and arrested more than 100 lawyers at
protests in at least two cities against a state of emergency imposed by
President Pervez Musharraf, witnesses said."

Richard wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Yes, and the more they make the more they will come up with these
schemes. I don't think it will end until the lawyers have all of the
money and then have to sue each other. :-)

Matt
They're already doing that. :-)

Here's how to deal with lawyers.

http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited...fx4298368.html

"Pakistani police Monday baton-charged and arrested more than 100 lawyers at
protests in at least two cities against a state of emergency imposed by
President Pervez Musharraf, witnesses said."


Unfortunately, after years of neglect, apathy, and unbridled greed on
the part of the American public, the control lawyers now enjoy over
every facet of American life, business, and government, is complete.
We are now simply waiting for the inevitable downfall of such a system.

--
Dudley Henriques

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Richard wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Yes, and the more they make the more they will come up with these
schemes. I don't think it will end until the lawyers have all of the
money and then have to sue each other. :-)

Matt
They're already doing that. :-)

Here's how to deal with lawyers.

http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited...fx4298368.html

"Pakistani police Monday baton-charged and arrested more than 100 lawyers
at protests in at least two cities against a state of emergency imposed
by President Pervez Musharraf, witnesses said."
Unfortunately, after years of neglect, apathy, and unbridled greed on the
part of the American public, the control lawyers now enjoy over every
facet of American life, business, and government, is complete.
We are now simply waiting for the inevitable downfall of such a system.

And the lawyers will sue everyone for causing said downfall.

I don't want to get in the way of a really good rant, but can we put a
little finer edge on this?

For all the idiotic decisions out there, whether against Cessna, Lycoming,
Parker-Hannefin or even McDonald's, there was some guy on the other side
arguing his heart out saying "My client did nothing wrong, and its product
met all of the applicable legal standards." He was left sputtering and
every bit as outraged as the writers in this thread when the jury came back
awarding millions against his client.

In cases that are settled, the companies pay because they have a damned good
idea of what a jury is going to do if it watches the grieving widow or
listens to the burn victim describe his treatment, regardless of how
well-made or well-engineered their products were.

There are *some* lawyers who manipulate gullible and sympathetic juries to
the detriment of society, especially general aviation. The system,
including the trial process, legislatures (i.e. lawyers who write laws) and
the judiciary (i.e. former lawyers who think they are little legislatures)
has become malignant, destroying the body that gave it life. But like a
malignancy, there is the rest of the body -- lots of decent, hard-working,
intelligent and right-minded people who are trying like hell to stop the
spread of the disease.

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in message
...

"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Richard wrote:
"Dudley Henriques" wrote in message
...
Matt Whiting wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
Yes, and the more they make the more they will come up with these
schemes. I don't think it will end until the lawyers have all of the
money and then have to sue each other. :-)

Matt
They're already doing that. :-)

Here's how to deal with lawyers.

http://www.forbes.com/afxnewslimited...fx4298368.html

"Pakistani police Monday baton-charged and arrested more than 100
lawyers at protests in at least two cities against a state of emergency
imposed by President Pervez Musharraf, witnesses said."
Unfortunately, after years of neglect, apathy, and unbridled greed on the
part of the American public, the control lawyers now enjoy over every
facet of American life, business, and government, is complete.
We are now simply waiting for the inevitable downfall of such a system.

And the lawyers will sue everyone for causing said downfall.

"LWG" wrote in
:

I don't want to get in the way of a really good rant, but can we put a
little finer edge on this?

For all the idiotic decisions out there, whether against Cessna,
Lycoming, Parker-Hannefin or even McDonald's, there was some guy on
the other side arguing his heart out saying "My client did nothing
wrong, and its product met all of the applicable legal standards." He
was left sputtering and every bit as outraged as the writers in this
thread when the jury came back awarding millions against his client.

In cases that are settled, the companies pay because they have a
damned good idea of what a jury is going to do if it watches the
grieving widow or listens to the burn victim describe his treatment,
regardless of how well-made or well-engineered their products were.

There are *some* lawyers who manipulate gullible and sympathetic
juries to the detriment of society, especially general aviation. The
system, including the trial process, legislatures (i.e. lawyers who
write laws) and the judiciary (i.e. former lawyers who think they are
little legislatures) has become malignant, destroying the body that
gave it life. But like a malignancy, there is the rest of the body --
lots of decent, hard-working, intelligent and right-minded people who
are trying like hell to stop the spread of the disease.

"Matt W. Barrow" wrote in message
...

You left out the attitude of some jurors who say "It's only the
insurance companies money." That adds to the sympathy the jury already
feels toward a badly injured victim.

Many years ago I was on a jury where an oversized passenger refused to
wear a seatbelt on a commuter flight. At first the Captain told her to
leave the aircraft and called the police to remove her. When the police
arrived, she agreed to wear the seatbelt and promised to obey the Captain's
instructions. They let her stay. Other passengers testified that during
the take off roll, she removed the seat belt and bragged to them that the
Captain didn't know what he was talking about, seat belts weren't
necessary. Near their destination, the Captain informed all passengers
that there was expected moderate to severs turbulence and asked everyone to
ensure their seatbelts were tightly fastened. The other passengers
testified that they pleaded with this passenger to put on the seatbelt, but
she refused. The aircraft hit severe turbulence. She was thrown into the
air and crashed to the floor of the aircraft, breaking two ribs, an arm, a
leg, and also had a skull fracture. Of course she sued the airline. The
forelady of the jury wanted to give her much more than the suit was for
becase "It's only an insurance companies money." I don't know what
eventually happened, as it ended in a hung jury. One other juror and
myself refused to give her a penny. We felt sorry for her for the injuries
she had suffered and the medical bills she incurred, but she did it to
herself.

--
Marty Shapiro
Silicon Rallye Inc.

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