FW: Article "DHS Wants GA Aircraft Screened Before Flights To U.S."

On 2007-11-06 09:14:28 -0800, Jon said:

Just got this today in e-mail, forwarded from an Aviation Daily piece.
I imagine this should **** of a few people.


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DHS Wants GA Aircraft Screened Before Flights To U.S.

The Dept. of Homeland Security plans to extend the security
requirements now applicable to Part 135 charter operators to a wider
range of general aviation operators and also wants GA aircraft and
passengers flying into the U.S. to undergo security screening before
takeoff, DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff said Monday.

That would be a good trick. How would you do it? Say you are in Mexico
at some airport which does not even have a phone, let alone Internet
access. Currently you can take off and call Customs as long as you give
Customs notice 60 minutes before crossing the border. Now, they want a
security screen of your passengers before you even take off? How do you
do that?

This is going to kill a lot of humanitarian programs in Mexico that
depend on volunteer pilots. The earlier Customs proposal was completely
unworkable, now this.

What kind of fantasy world to these people live in?

Last I looked, Alaska was part of the United States of America. How
come these guys want to screen flights from Alaska?

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:25:41 -0800, C J Campbell
wrote:


That would be a good trick. How would you do it? Say you are in Mexico
at some airport which does not even have a phone, let alone Internet
access. Currently you can take off and call Customs as long as you give
Customs notice 60 minutes before crossing the border. Now, they want a
security screen of your passengers before you even take off? How do you
do that?

This is going to kill a lot of humanitarian programs in Mexico that
depend on volunteer pilots. The earlier Customs proposal was completely
unworkable, now this.

What kind of fantasy world to these people live in?

Last I looked, Alaska was part of the United States of America. How
come these guys want to screen flights from Alaska?

Did you miss the part where it mentioned Pt 135??

Pt 91/GA is going to have to use the same procedure/system that Pt 135
has been using for quite some time.

https://eapis.cbp.dhs.gov/

TC

On 2007-11-06 14:42:36 -0800, said:

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 14:25:41 -0800, C J Campbell
wrote:


That would be a good trick. How would you do it? Say you are in Mexico
at some airport which does not even have a phone, let alone Internet
access. Currently you can take off and call Customs as long as you give
Customs notice 60 minutes before crossing the border. Now, they want a
security screen of your passengers before you even take off? How do you
do that?

This is going to kill a lot of humanitarian programs in Mexico that
depend on volunteer pilots. The earlier Customs proposal was completely
unworkable, now this.

What kind of fantasy world to these people live in?

Last I looked, Alaska was part of the United States of America. How
come these guys want to screen flights from Alaska?

Did you miss the part where it mentioned Pt 135??

Pt 91/GA is going to have to use the same procedure/system that Pt 135
has been using for quite some time.

https://eapis.cbp.dhs.gov/

TC

Great, if you have Internet access. But in Mexico a lot of airports do
not even have phones, let alone Internet access. What, does DHS think
that if it commands people to register over the Internet, that all the
necessary equipment will just suddenly appear in a flash of pink smoke?
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

In article 2007110621085416807-christophercampbell@hotmailcom,
C J Campbell wrote:

What, does DHS think

DHS doesn't think. Don't expect the impossible from such a group. (-{

--
Bob Noel
(goodness, please trim replies!!!)

On Tue, 6 Nov 2007 21:08:54 -0800, C J Campbell
wrote:


Great, if you have Internet access. But in Mexico a lot of airports do
not even have phones, let alone Internet access. What, does DHS think
that if it commands people to register over the Internet, that all the
necessary equipment will just suddenly appear in a flash of pink smoke?

I understand what you are saying, and am not disagreeing, but you are
urinating into the wind.

FWIW, the Pt 135 people were mandated to use the EAPIS system before
it was operational-so evidently they were counting on "a flash of pink
smoke".

Call around to a couple of smaller Pt 135 operations and ask them what
it takes to haul a box of freight into the US...I think you will find
that most of them tried to "comply" and gave up. Strange thing is a
bunch of auto parts seem to be made in either Mexico or Canada these
days.

TC

C J Campbell writes:

Great, if you have Internet access. But in Mexico a lot of airports do
not even have phones, let alone Internet access. What, does DHS think
that if it commands people to register over the Internet, that all the
necessary equipment will just suddenly appear in a flash of pink smoke?

Perhaps there are people in DHS who would simply like to put an end to all
private aviation.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

C J Campbell writes:

Great, if you have Internet access. But in Mexico a lot of airports
do not even have phones, let alone Internet access. What, does DHS
think that if it commands people to register over the Internet, that
all the necessary equipment will just suddenly appear in a flash of
pink smoke?

Perhaps there are people in DHS who would simply like to put an end to
all private aviation.


A bit like you.



Bertie