737 thinks it's a DC-10?

On Nov 9, 9:33 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"F. Baum" wrote roups.com:
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As for MXs asertion that you can take off with two engines, he is full
of it as usual.
He wasn't talking about ferrying, he was talking about a V1 cut as far
as I could see.

OOOOps! Sorry about that MX. I should not have said you are full of
it. Some of your posts are actually entertaining.

You can ferry a 727 with one out. My company has done it and I've seen
the Boeing paperwork for it. It's not a big deal in the 72'

Thanks for the update. I always wondered about that so I thought I
would post it here to see if anyone else had a diifferent experience.
At my shop we werent aloud to do this and judging by how much work the
engine out missed was, this would have been alot of fun.
You can also get some twins off on one engine from a standing start!
You just have to introduce power gradually. I've done it in a 757 sim at
210,000 off a 10,000 foot runway. I've been told that it's legal to
ferry a 757 on one engine but I have no credible confirmation of this. I
have no doubt it could be done, though. Why you would want to is beyond
me, though.

Exactly. I have seen a crew doing engine out touch and goes with a
certain turboprop and I have heard you could this with other twins,
but nothing credible from a standing start.
KFB

"F. Baum" wrote in
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On Nov 9, 9:33 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
"F. Baum" wrote
roups.com:
.
As for MXs asertion that you can take off with two engines, he is
full of it as usual.
He wasn't talking about ferrying, he was talking about a V1 cut as
far as I could see.

OOOOps! Sorry about that MX. I should not have said you are full of
it. Some of your posts are actually entertaining.

You can ferry a 727 with one out. My company has done it and I've
seen the Boeing paperwork for it. It's not a big deal in the 72'

Thanks for the update. I always wondered about that so I thought I
would post it here to see if anyone else had a diifferent experience.
At my shop we werent aloud to do this and judging by how much work the
engine out missed was, this would have been alot of fun.

Well, empty it wouldn't have been too different from taking off at max.
Our's had -7s as well and they were 200s so it was no ball of fire on
three heavy.

You can also get some twins off on one engine from a standing start!
You just have to introduce power gradually. I've done it in a 757 sim
at 210,000 off a 10,000 foot runway. I've been told that it's legal
to ferry a 757 on one engine but I have no credible confirmation of
this. I have no doubt it could be done, though. Why you would want to
is beyond me, though.

Exactly. I have seen a crew doing engine out touch and goes with a
certain turboprop and I have heard you could this with other twins,
but nothing credible from a standing start.


Well, we used to do V1 cuts in the airplanes which was pretty exciting
in some airplanes, the 737-200 in particular which had a roll yaw
coupling that got your attention. I don;t think anyone in the world is
doing these any more but an empty airplane will do it no problem.
Certified airplanes will do exaclty what it says on the label. I had an
engine blow to bits on a 73 just below V1 on a limiting runway once and
we stopped. We used almost the whole runway, but we stopped just like Mr
Boeing said we would. Another 737 lost one on exactly the same runway
for the same reason (bird strike) and went and it did exactly what they
said it would do there as well,



Bertie

On Nov 9, 10:48 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


Well, we used to do V1 cuts in the airplanes which was pretty exciting
in some airplanes, the 737-200 in particular which had a roll yaw
coupling that got your attention. I don;t think anyone in the world is
doing these any more but an empty airplane will do it no problem.
Certified airplanes will do exaclty what it says on the label. I had an
engine blow to bits on a 73 just below V1 on a limiting runway once and
we stopped. We used almost the whole runway, but we stopped just like Mr
Boeing said we would. Another 737 lost one on exactly the same runway
for the same reason (bird strike) and went and it did exactly what they
said it would do there as well,

Of all the performance paramaters the accelerate stop charts have
always been the most impresive to me. I had a good kitbuilding buddy
who had a birdstrike in a 300 on a 6400 ft runway that I thought would
be dangerous as all hell and they went past V1 by a few and still
stopped it , without melting the plugs no less. I flew in the next day
with a couple of mecanics and they replaced several fan blades and we
ferried it to a maintenece base for further repairs. Just amazing what
these jets will do.

"F. Baum" wrote in news:1194632625.438524.118820
@v29g2000prd.googlegroups.com:

On Nov 9, 10:48 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:


Well, we used to do V1 cuts in the airplanes which was pretty exciting
in some airplanes, the 737-200 in particular which had a roll yaw
coupling that got your attention. I don;t think anyone in the world is
doing these any more but an empty airplane will do it no problem.
Certified airplanes will do exaclty what it says on the label. I had an
engine blow to bits on a 73 just below V1 on a limiting runway once and
we stopped. We used almost the whole runway, but we stopped just like Mr
Boeing said we would. Another 737 lost one on exactly the same runway
for the same reason (bird strike) and went and it did exactly what they
said it would do there as well,

Of all the performance paramaters the accelerate stop charts have
always been the most impresive to me. I had a good kitbuilding buddy
who had a birdstrike in a 300 on a 6400 ft runway that I thought would
be dangerous as all hell and they went past V1 by a few and still
stopped it , without melting the plugs no less. I flew in the next day
with a couple of mecanics and they replaced several fan blades and we
ferried it to a maintenece base for further repairs. Just amazing what
these jets will do.


That's short all right. Gives you great confidence in them when you see
taht and makes the V1 decision easy. Bertie