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Per Nordenberg wrote: A SH-37 Viggen was once most likely fired at by a Soviet frigate during a photo reconnaissance mission over the Baltic. It is not known however if it was a deliberate shooting or if it was an accidental shooting, but photos from the mission anyway showed two SA-N-4 Gecko (Soviet/Russian designation 9M33) missiles being launched from the ship. The first media reports said "at", but what really happened was that there was an exercise and it was overflown and photographed when it happened to be firing at an exercise target. As far as I know the Viggen wasn't in the target's sector so it wasn't a case of mistaken identity either. -- Urban Fredriksson http://www.canit.se/%7Egriffon/ To get rid of an enemy, make him a friend. |
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![]() "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message om... Guy Alcala wrote in message ... Keith Willshaw wrote: "Mike Marron" wrote in message ... snip Buccaneers were operational in the Gulf War and I believe Venoms did ground attack in Malaya and Sea Venoms operated in Korea No Sea venoms that I'm aware of. Only the Colossus-class light fleets were deployed to Korea, and they had air groups of Seafires or Sea Furies and Fireflies. Venoms saw action in Suez 56. McDonnell F2H-4 Banshee, North American FJ-4B Fury, deHavilland Vampire, Yakolev Yak-25A, Dassault Ouragen, McDonnell FH-1 Vampires saw service in Korea I think Meteor. I believe Vamps were used in combat by Rhodesia and South Africa, and (possibly) by Jordan , India, and Egypt. Brooks Just read about a clash between Israeli Meteors and Egyptian Vampires last night in fact. (By which I mean I read about it last night, it happened in the 50's) |
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![]() "Guy Alcala" wrote in message . .. Keith Willshaw wrote: "Mike Marron" wrote in message ... snip Buccaneers were operational in the Gulf War and I believe Venoms did ground attack in Malaya and Sea Venoms operated in Korea No Sea venoms that I'm aware of. Only the Colossus-class light fleets were deployed to Korea, and they had air groups of Seafires or Sea Furies and Fireflies. Quite right they arrived too late for service in Korea now I think about it, I suspect they were used over Suez though. Keith |
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Keith Willshaw wrote: Phantom, Hawker Sea Fury, Grumman F7F Tigercat, McDonnell F3H Demon, Supermarine Attacker... Sea Furies were used off RN carriers in Korea I think. The Indians have used the attacker against Pakistan I believe They certainly used the Squark - up to the 1980s when they got Harrier, but I'm not sure they used the Attacker? -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas) |
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![]() "Jack G" kirjoitti et... Could add as well: Martin AM-1 Mauler Grumman AF-2S Guardian Jack "Kirk Stant" wrote in message om... Just for fun, off the top of your heads, which post-WW2 combat aircraft (any country) have NOT been used in their intended roles in an actual shooting war (or police action, or soccer riot, or whatever it's called these days)? And why? Some ROE: 1. Combat aircraft means it was designed or modified to employ air-to-air or air-to-ground/ship/boat weapons. 2. Combat means someone was activily shooting back (or really wanted to) while the aircraft was performing it's mission. 3. Let's leave out recce, that just gets too complicated! To start things off, here are my USAF candidates: B-36 - Held back from Korea for Nuke mission. B-47 - Too early for Korea, too late for Vietnam (remember, no recce). F-84F - Too early for Korea (ef considered a separate aircraft from straight-wing F-84s), too late for Vietnam. Combat use by other countries? F-89 - Too late for Korea (?), not needed (no bomber threat). F-106 - Not needed in Vietnam - F-102s deployed instead. F-101 (Yeah, I know about the RF-101 in Cuba and Vietnam). Don't know why F-101Cs weren't used early in Vietnam. Being phased out by then? Everything else got lots of chances to do their thing. At first glance, looks like the US taxpayer is getting a pretty good deal for his money! Kirk (tired of all the non-mil av bull**** on this group) Calquin (copy of Mosquito) from Argentina Canadair CL-28 Argus Breguet 1150 Atlantic Bristol Brigand Lockheed P-3 Orion Beriev Be-6 Beriev Be-10 Beriev Be-12 Tupolev Tu-12 Tupolev Tu-14 |
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Nick Pedley wrote: Hawker Firebrand, Tupolov Tu-20, Hawker Sea Vixen, McDonnell F2H-4 Banshee, Hawker Sea Vixen certainly saw no action (or indeed existance), but there have been suggestions in this thread that the De Havilland Sea Vixen might have seen active service over Borneo ![]() -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Who dies with the most toys wins" (Gary Barnes) |
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Kirk Stant wrote: Lots of early French and Brit types used in Suez (my favorite - Westland Wyvern - that must have been a bitchin' prop job to push around!) Remarkably high deck landing accident rate, I'm tiold, and it certainly came a close second to the Firebrand in a straw pole of "worst 'carrier aeroplane' in a discussion between a panel of ex-FAA pilots at a symposium at Yeovilton last year. The prototype Wyvern at Yeovilton is even more impressive than the production examples - a serious monster H-24 piston engine up front.. -- Andy Breen ~ Interplanetary Scintillation Research Group http://users.aber.ac.uk/azb/ "Time has stopped, says the Black Lion clock and eternity has begun" (Dylan Thomas) |
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H *****.*******@**.****.** wrote: Could add as well: "Kirk Stant" wrote in message om... Just for fun, off the top of your heads, which post-WW2 combat aircraft (any country) have NOT been used in their intended roles in Bristol Brigand Brigand was used in Malaya. -- Andy Breen ~ Not speaking on behalf of the University of Wales.... Nieveler's law: "Any USENET thread, if sufficiently prolonged and not Godwinated, will eventually turn into a discussion about alcoholic drinks." |
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![]() "Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote: "Alex A" a écrit dans le message de news: ... Sukhoi Su-15 1983, KAL 007 airliner Tupolov Tu-22 Heh, a Libyan Backfire tried to attack a french airfield in Libya in 1986. First attack put one bomb on the runway, second attack put 2 Crotale SAM into the Backfire... -- _________________________________________ Pierre-Henri BARAS Co-webmaster de French Fleet Air Arm http://www.ffaa.net Encyclopédie de l'Aviation sur le web http://www.aviation-fr.info Aircraft was a Tu-22 Blinder, and it was killed by a pair of I-Hawks, as even the French Defense Ministry admitted at the time. No survivors from the aircraft. Backfire has not been exported to anybody, for which many parties are grateful. Only non-Russian operator is Ukrainian AF. Posted via www.My-Newsgroups.com - web to news gateway for usenet access! |
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