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Which post-WW2 combat aircraft have not been used in combat?



 
 
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Old October 17th 03, 08:15 AM
Urban Fredriksson
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Per Nordenberg wrote:

A SH-37 Viggen was once most likely fired at by a Soviet frigate during a photo
reconnaissance mission over the Baltic. It is not known however if it was a
deliberate shooting or if it was an accidental shooting, but photos from the
mission anyway showed two SA-N-4 Gecko (Soviet/Russian designation 9M33) missiles
being launched from the ship.


The first media reports said "at", but what really
happened was that there was an exercise and it was overflown
and photographed when it happened to be firing at
an exercise target. As far as I know the Viggen wasn't in
the target's sector so it wasn't a case of mistaken
identity either.
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Old October 17th 03, 09:03 AM
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message
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Guy Alcala wrote in message

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Keith Willshaw wrote:

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
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snip

Buccaneers were operational in the Gulf War and I believe Venoms did
ground attack in Malaya and Sea Venoms operated in Korea


No Sea venoms that I'm aware of. Only the Colossus-class light fleets

were
deployed to Korea, and they had air groups of Seafires or Sea Furies and
Fireflies.


Venoms saw action in Suez 56.




McDonnell F2H-4 Banshee, North American FJ-4B Fury, deHavilland
Vampire, Yakolev Yak-25A, Dassault Ouragen, McDonnell FH-1

Vampires saw service in Korea I think


Meteor.


I believe Vamps were used in combat by Rhodesia and South Africa, and
(possibly) by Jordan , India, and Egypt.

Brooks


Just read about a clash between Israeli Meteors and Egyptian Vampires last
night in fact. (By which I mean I read about it last night, it happened in
the 50's)


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Old October 17th 03, 09:13 AM
Keith Willshaw
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"Guy Alcala" wrote in message
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Keith Willshaw wrote:

"Mike Marron" wrote in message
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snip

Buccaneers were operational in the Gulf War and I believe Venoms did
ground attack in Malaya and Sea Venoms operated in Korea


No Sea venoms that I'm aware of. Only the Colossus-class light fleets

were
deployed to Korea, and they had air groups of Seafires or Sea Furies and
Fireflies.



Quite right they arrived too late for service in Korea now I think
about it, I suspect they were used over Suez though.

Keith


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Old October 17th 03, 01:15 PM
ANDREW ROBERT BREEN
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Keith Willshaw wrote:
Phantom, Hawker Sea Fury, Grumman F7F Tigercat, McDonnell
F3H Demon, Supermarine Attacker...


Sea Furies were used off RN carriers in Korea I think.

The Indians have used the attacker against Pakistan I believe


They certainly used the Squark - up to the 1980s when they got Harrier,
but I'm not sure they used the Attacker?

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Old October 17th 03, 02:42 PM
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"Jack G" kirjoitti
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Could add as well:

Martin AM-1 Mauler
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Jack


"Kirk Stant" wrote in message
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Just for fun, off the top of your heads, which post-WW2 combat
aircraft (any country) have NOT been used in their intended roles in
an actual shooting war (or police action, or soccer riot, or whatever
it's called these days)?

And why?

Some ROE:

1. Combat aircraft means it was designed or modified to employ
air-to-air or air-to-ground/ship/boat weapons.

2. Combat means someone was activily shooting back (or really wanted
to) while the aircraft was performing it's mission.

3. Let's leave out recce, that just gets too complicated!

To start things off, here are my USAF candidates:

B-36 - Held back from Korea for Nuke mission.
B-47 - Too early for Korea, too late for Vietnam (remember, no recce).
F-84F - Too early for Korea (ef considered a separate aircraft from
straight-wing F-84s), too late for Vietnam. Combat use by other
countries?
F-89 - Too late for Korea (?), not needed (no bomber threat).
F-106 - Not needed in Vietnam - F-102s deployed instead.
F-101 (Yeah, I know about the RF-101 in Cuba and Vietnam). Don't know
why F-101Cs weren't used early in Vietnam. Being phased out by then?

Everything else got lots of chances to do their thing.

At first glance, looks like the US taxpayer is getting a pretty good
deal for his money!

Kirk
(tired of all the non-mil av bull**** on this group)





Calquin (copy of Mosquito) from Argentina
Canadair CL-28 Argus
Breguet 1150 Atlantic
Bristol Brigand
Lockheed P-3 Orion
Beriev Be-6
Beriev Be-10
Beriev Be-12
Tupolev Tu-12
Tupolev Tu-14



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Old October 17th 03, 04:17 PM
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Nick Pedley wrote:
Hawker Firebrand, Tupolov Tu-20, Hawker Sea Vixen, McDonnell F2H-4 Banshee,


Hawker Sea Vixen certainly saw no action (or indeed existance), but there
have been suggestions in this thread that the De Havilland Sea Vixen might
have seen active service over Borneo

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Old October 17th 03, 04:19 PM
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Kirk Stant wrote:
Lots of early French and Brit types used in Suez (my favorite -
Westland Wyvern - that must have been a bitchin' prop job to push
around!)


Remarkably high deck landing accident rate, I'm tiold, and it
certainly came a close second to the Firebrand in a straw pole of "worst
'carrier aeroplane' in a discussion between a panel of ex-FAA pilots
at a symposium at Yeovilton last year.

The prototype Wyvern at Yeovilton is even more impressive than the
production examples - a serious monster H-24 piston engine up front..

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Old October 17th 03, 04:55 PM
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In article ,
H *****.*******@**.****.** wrote:
Could add as well:
"Kirk Stant" wrote in message
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Just for fun, off the top of your heads, which post-WW2 combat
aircraft (any country) have NOT been used in their intended roles in


Bristol Brigand


Brigand was used in Malaya.

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Old October 17th 03, 06:06 PM
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"Pierre-Henri Baras" wrote:

"Alex A" a écrit
dans le message de news:
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Sukhoi Su-15



1983, KAL 007 airliner

Tupolov Tu-22


Heh, a Libyan Backfire tried to attack a french
airfield in Libya in 1986.
First attack put one bomb on the runway, second
attack put 2 Crotale SAM
into the Backfire...

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Aircraft was a Tu-22 Blinder, and it was killed by a pair of I-Hawks, as
even the French Defense Ministry admitted at the time. No survivors from
the aircraft.
Backfire has not been exported to anybody, for which many parties are grateful.
Only non-Russian operator is Ukrainian AF.

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