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Old November 14th 07, 02:31 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Morgans wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote

Glad I could add a data point for you. My personal feelings would be
legalize pot. Though I'd apply the same workplace and driving rules
on it that are in place for alcohol.


IF you did that, are tests accurate to tell you if the person smoked
last night, or if he had a small amount before he came to work that
morning, and got tested two hours after he got to work that morning?

It just seems like it would be tough to impossible to enforce, to me.


Nope they are not and you are right it is would be a problem. My bet though
is that a mouth swab or some other sort of test to check for estimated time
of use could be developed.


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Old November 14th 07, 03:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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Morgans wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrote

Glad I could add a data point for you. My personal feelings would be
legalize pot. Though I'd apply the same workplace and driving rules
on it that are in place for alcohol.


IF you did that, are tests accurate to tell you if the person smoked
last night, or if he had a small amount before he came to work that
morning, and got tested two hours after he got to work that morning?

It just seems like it would be tough to impossible to enforce, to me.


Nope they are not and you are right it is would be a problem. My bet
though is that a mouth swab or some other sort of test to check for
estimated time of use could be developed.


Years ago they were touting a new (at the time) eye movement test, that
would indicate such.


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Old November 15th 07, 03:41 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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It just seems like it would be tough to impossible to enforce, to me.


Nope they are not and you are right it is would be a problem. My bet
though is that a mouth swab or some other sort of test to check for
estimated time of use could be developed.


They do mouth swabs in some situations. Apparently (says an industry
source) there's some margin of error; somebody who used that day and would
have failed a UA passed the swab test. This woman worked for a company
that sold a UA test kit, a masking agent to beat that kit, and about six
months after they released thta they released an advanced UA test kit that
detected the masking agent.

Interesting racket.

-c


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Old November 15th 07, 04:58 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Gatt wrote:
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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It just seems like it would be tough to impossible to enforce, to
me.


Nope they are not and you are right it is would be a problem. My bet
though is that a mouth swab or some other sort of test to check for
estimated time of use could be developed.


They do mouth swabs in some situations. Apparently (says an industry
source) there's some margin of error; somebody who used that day and
would have failed a UA passed the swab test. This woman worked for
a company that sold a UA test kit, a masking agent to beat that kit,
and about six months after they released thta they released an
advanced UA test kit that detected the masking agent.

Interesting racket.

-c


Here's a tip for everyone. NEVER accept one of the quickie tests that the
results show up on the panel on the cup. They are worst than useless. Both
false positives and negatives at about a 30% rate. I bring this up because
of the comments about masking agents like URinLuck. (Gotta love that name.)
A test sent to a proper lab will send back an "adulterated" result almost
everytime.


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Old November 15th 07, 10:01 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Slightly off topic: A neurologist at our hospital had a vendetta
against the head of the pathology department... He decided to prove
that our hospital pathology lab was incompetent and by inference the
chief also and obtained urine from his dog and sent it in as
speciment for a patient with some obscure kidney disease diagnosis...

Well, the automated testing machine flagged it as an abnormal, the
tech looked at the print out and couldn't figure a diagnosis and took
it to the chief to make a diagnosis ... The chief took one look at the
results and said that is not human urine... The brown stuff proceeded
to hit the fan from there...

We can tell a lot from urine... We can especially tell when ur in
trouble...
 




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