Aerobatics books (Bertie, Dudley)

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Well, lot's to get busy with!

My club has an aerobat which was my primary trainer.

I've got the book by Williams -- ran across it at a used bookstore.
It's an old edition, hardback, but is in good condition. I'll check
out those others too, particularly the basics books.

Doesn't Bob Hoover have a book about his flying adventures? Anyone
recommend that?




As a matter of fact, I'm reading that at the moment. t's quite good. Not
much in the way of prose and he has had someone else write it for him,
but that's a minor quibble, really.
He did some fantastic stuff, though..

Williams book is still a bible, though I haven't read it for a while..
What I do recall about it is it's heavy on procedure and tech stuff and
light on style and the psychological.
For instance, he'll tell you what you're looking for in a loop, i'e,
entry speed, the effect of torque as the nose comes up, the ever
changing requirements of elevator presure as the attiude and speed
change, etc, but he doesn't really give any insight into what you're
looking *for* during the manuever. (maybe I'm slighting him, Haven't
read it in years and it's out on loan)
But as a recipe book, where he gives you the ingredients and you supply
the love, it's more than what anyone could ever need for an
introduction.

BTW, I looked at buying the Arrow Active that's pictured in the book.
It's the only one in the world and was for sale years ago, in flying
condition, for about $5,000 US! I think it ended up at Shuttleworth
where it belongs.
Hopefully some Nigel won't plant it in a "watch this!" moment.


Bertie

On Dec 2, 5:58 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
wrote in news:80ea2e4f-f2e0-4ea1-81f6-
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Well, lot's to get busy with!

My club has an aerobat which was my primary trainer.

I've got the book by Williams -- ran across it at a used bookstore.
It's an old edition, hardback, but is in good condition. I'll check
out those others too, particularly the basics books.

Doesn't Bob Hoover have a book about his flying adventures? Anyone
recommend that?

As a matter of fact, I'm reading that at the moment. t's quite good. Not
much in the way of prose and he has had someone else write it for him,
but that's a minor quibble, really.
He did some fantastic stuff, though..

Williams book is still a bible, though I haven't read it for a while..
What I do recall about it is it's heavy on procedure and tech stuff and
light on style and the psychological.
For instance, he'll tell you what you're looking for in a loop, i'e,
entry speed, the effect of torque as the nose comes up, the ever
changing requirements of elevator presure as the attiude and speed
change, etc, but he doesn't really give any insight into what you're
looking *for* during the manuever. (maybe I'm slighting him, Haven't
read it in years and it's out on loan)
But as a recipe book, where he gives you the ingredients and you supply
the love, it's more than what anyone could ever need for an
introduction.

BTW, I looked at buying the Arrow Active that's pictured in the book.
It's the only one in the world and was for sale years ago, in flying
condition, for about $5,000 US! I think it ended up at Shuttleworth
where it belongs.
Hopefully some Nigel won't plant it in a "watch this!" moment.

Bertie

If you can't wait to buy a book, you could look he
http://www.iac.org/begin/figures.html
It's free and it's right now.

K l e i n

K l e i n wrote in news:7a4127e7-1f13-401e-8865-
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If you can't wait to buy a book, you could look he
http://www.iac.org/begin/figures.html
It's free and it's right now.


It's not really good enough for instruction, but it is good enough to
describe what the manuevers are.


Bertie

On Dec 2, 7:38 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
K l e i n wrote in news:7a4127e7-1f13-401e-8865-
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If you can't wait to buy a book, you could look he
http://www.iac.org/begin/figures.html
It's free and it's right now.

It's not really good enough for instruction, but it is good enough to
describe what the manuevers are.

Bertie

I agree.

But, I would hope that no one thinks that ANY book is an adequate
substitute for competent dual instruction in an appropriately
certified aircraft, not that this is what you meant. ;^)

K l e i n

K l e i n wrote in news:884cf1bb-6619-466b-aebb-
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On Dec 2, 7:38 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
K l e i n wrote in news:7a4127e7-1f13-401e-8865-
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If you can't wait to buy a book, you could look he
http://www.iac.org/begin/figures.html
It's free and it's right now.

It's not really good enough for instruction, but it is good enough to
describe what the manuevers are.

Bertie

I agree.

But, I would hope that no one thinks that ANY book is an adequate
substitute for competent dual instruction in an appropriately
certified aircraft, not that this is what you meant. ;^)


True enough. you got me there. There just isn't any substitute for flying..



Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote

BTW, I looked at buying the Arrow Active that's pictured in the book.
It's the only one in the world and was for sale years ago, in flying
condition, for about $5,000 US! I think it ended up at Shuttleworth
where it belongs.
Hopefully some Nigel won't plant it in a "watch this!" moment.

Here it is, if this is the same one. Been rebuilt, if it is.

http://www.realaero.com/
--
Jim in NC

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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote

BTW, I looked at buying the Arrow Active that's pictured in the book.
It's the only one in the world and was for sale years ago, in flying
condition, for about $5,000 US! I think it ended up at Shuttleworth
where it belongs.
Hopefully some Nigel won't plant it in a "watch this!" moment.

Here it is, if this is the same one. Been rebuilt, if it is.

http://www.realaero.com/


It's the only one. I think two were built. One with a radial, I think, but
someone crashed it and this one is the only one in the world. Funny looking
little thing. Cool looking in a funky kind of way. It's suppsed to have
been a pretty good aerobatic airplane. I think it won some competitions in
its day. Wish i'd gotten to fly it!


Bertie