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#1
December 3rd 07, 05:07 AM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
Wolfgang Schwanke writes:
Addicts get so used to the positive feelings induced by the drug that they get strong depressions when sober. But that is their choice, not an effect of the drug. It's part of the addictive personality. 
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December 4th 07, 04:36 AM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
Wolfgang Schwanke writes:
There's no choice, addicts are not in control. There was a point in time when they lost control, but that was in the past and they didn't know it then. A person who can at will stop using the drug is not an addict by definition. The first step in overcoming addiction is reasserting control. Addicts who claim that they have no control over their addictions remain addicts for life (often a short life).
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December 4th 07, 04:40 AM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
Mxsmanic wrote in
: Wolfgang Schwanke writes: There's no choice, addicts are not in control. There was a point in time when they lost control, but that was in the past and they didn't know it then. A person who can at will stop using the drug is not an addict by definition. The first step in overcoming addiction is reasserting control. Addicts who claim that they have no control over their addictions remain addicts for life (often a short life). Oh borhter, now he's a counseler. Bertie
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December 4th 07, 11:02 AM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
... Addicts who claim that they have no control over their addictions remain addicts for life There is no published report that supports this statement.
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#5
December 4th 07, 03:00 PM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
nobody wrote:
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Addicts who claim that they have no control over their addictions remain addicts for life There is no published report that supports this statement. Not to mention it is exactly opposite the 12 step programs where you MUST admit that you have no control and turn yourself over to a "Higher Power."
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#6
December 5th 07, 05:29 AM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message ... nobody wrote: "Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... Addicts who claim that they have no control over their addictions remain addicts for life There is no published report that supports this statement. Not to mention it is exactly opposite the 12 step programs where you MUST admit that you have no control and turn yourself over to a "Higher Power." 240 Volt?
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#7
December 4th 07, 06:31 PM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
nobody writes:
There is no published report that supports this statement. Why is a published report needed?
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#8
December 4th 07, 07:38 PM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
"Mxsmanic" wrote in message ... nobody writes: There is no published report that supports this statement. Why is a published report needed? Because you are just trolling now, or trying to.
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#9
December 5th 07, 12:24 PM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
Mxsmanic wrote in
: nobody writes: There is no published report that supports this statement. Why is a published report needed? Because only someone with the IQ of a salamander would take your word for anything. Bertie
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#10
December 5th 07, 12:30 PM
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An Unexpected Finding Among Commercial Pilots
What do you have against salamanders?
On Dec 5, 7:24 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Mxsmanic wrote : nobody writes: There is no published report that supports this statement. Why is a published report needed? Because only someone with the IQ of a salamander would take your word for anything. Bertie
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