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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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No your basis for judgment is not as valid as anyone else's. You have no
direct knowledge of one of the points of comparison, there for your
judgment
is without basis.

As I've said, learning that all opinions are equal takes time.

That's ridiculous. Fortunately this isn't a brain surgery or electrical
engineering forum:

"In MY opinion, we ought to be able to plug this 12 volt DC appliance into a
220v AC outlet."
"But, you're not an electrician, and the electricians here all say you're
wrong."
"That's just their opinion."
"But they're licensed electricians."
"Learning that all opinions are equal takes time."

Just doesn't work.

-c

On Dec 14, 8:10 am, Mxsmanic wrote:
news.verizon.net writes:
No your basis for judgment is not as valid as anyone else's. You have no
direct knowledge of one of the points of comparison, there for your judgment
is without basis.

As I've said, learning that all opinions are equal takes time. Some learn the
easy way, and some learn the hard way.

I've been reading your posts, and the thread. I have flown sim but
also fly "real gliders and real planes". I have to say, you are
kidding yourself if you think flying a sim is flying. There is a
world of difference between sitting in a chair in front of a computer
and taking off of terra firma. I don't understand your POV or why you
feel that you need to convince pilots that you are correct. Anyone
that flies knows you haven't a clue regarding this. Post away in the
sim forums, but please don't post like an expert here no matter how
many hours you have holding your joystick!!!

Doug

gliderguynj writes:

I've been reading your posts, and the thread. I have flown sim but
also fly "real gliders and real planes". I have to say, you are
kidding yourself if you think flying a sim is flying.

It's not flying a real plane, but it's still flying in a sense. I find it
enjoyable.

There is a world of difference between sitting in a chair in front of a computer
and taking off of terra firma.

Yes. Sometimes those differences favor real flight, sometimes they favor
simulation.

I don't understand your POV or why you feel that you need to convince
pilots that you are correct.

Understanding other points of view is a very useful skill to develop.

I don't feel I need to convince pilots of anything, but I do think they need
to be less convinced of some unique validity of their own opinions.

Mxsmanic wrote:

My basis for a judgement is just as valid as anyone else's.


No, your basis for a judgment is not. It would be like you saying which
tastes better Pepsi or Coke when you have never tried Coke.

"Gig601XLBuilder" wrote in message
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Mxsmanic wrote:

My basis for a judgement is just as valid as anyone else's.


No, your basis for a judgment is not. It would be like you saying which
tastes better Pepsi or Coke when you have never tried Coke.

Kinda like trying to explain green to someone blind from birth.

The only problem is he says that green is exactly like red, and if you
disagree, you must "explain exactly what is different about them".

Gig601XLBuilder writes:

No, your basis for a judgment is not. It would be like you saying which
tastes better Pepsi or Coke when you have never tried Coke.

What others are saying about piloting is like saying Coke tastes best without
having tasted anything else at all. There are many aspects to aviation, just
as there are many aspects to food and drink.

I've never said that simulation is superior to flying a real airplane in a
general sense, although I've indicated that I find it preferable in certain
respects. There isn't any way to prove or disprove that it is generally
superior or inferior, because that determination is purely a matter of
personal taste.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Gig601XLBuilder writes:

No, your basis for a judgment is not. It would be like you saying
which tastes better Pepsi or Coke when you have never tried Coke.

What others are saying about piloting is like saying Coke tastes best
without having tasted anything else at all.


No, that is what you';re doing.


Bertie

Mxsmanic wrote:
Gig601XLBuilder writes:

No, your basis for a judgment is not. It would be like you saying which
tastes better Pepsi or Coke when you have never tried Coke.

What others are saying about piloting is like saying Coke tastes best without
having tasted anything else at all. There are many aspects to aviation, just
as there are many aspects to food and drink.

I've never said that simulation is superior to flying a real airplane in a
general sense, although I've indicated that I find it preferable in certain
respects. There isn't any way to prove or disprove that it is generally
superior or inferior, because that determination is purely a matter of
personal taste.

OK, let me rephrase, It would be like you saying anything about the
taste of Coke having never in your life drinking anything but Pepsi.

Gig601XLBuilder writes:

OK, let me rephrase, It would be like you saying anything about the
taste of Coke having never in your life drinking anything but Pepsi.

Is that like making statements about flying airliners when one has never flown
anything but a single-engined tin-fan prop?

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Gig601XLBuilder writes:

No, your basis for a judgment is not. It would be like you saying which
tastes better Pepsi or Coke when you have never tried Coke.

What others are saying about piloting is like saying Coke tastes best
without
having tasted anything else at all. There are many aspects to aviation,
just
as there are many aspects to food and drink.

Just like Coke and Pepsi, until you actually taste it you have no idea what
exactly you're talking about.

-c