Sims

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 06:53:25 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Ron writes:

At the risk of jumping into the middle of a flame war, I'd like to
offer a few opinions. I fly real airplanes and play with simulators
now and then. Trust me, sims are not close to the real thing. 100%
of "flying" takes place after you leave the ground. All the
sensations of flight are what you feel, hear and see while moving your
airplane around in the sky. It isn't all going from A to B and
watching the scenery unfold on a monitor screen 20 inches in front of
your face. Even full motion multi-million dollar sims are not the
same as "flying". When you fly, if you love to fly, the expense is
secondary and only enters your mind at times when you are not flying
or not thinking about flying.

So do you fly a 747 or a F-18?

It doesn't matter. Flying is aviating in the air no matter what your
aircraft is.


I'll give you the point that simulators can be fun, but they pale in
comparison to flying.

That is purely a matter of opinion.


Tha's why I said in the beginning of my post "I'd like to offer a few
opinions."

Ron Kelley

Ron writes:

It doesn't matter. Flying is aviating in the air no matter what your
aircraft is.

No, sorry, it's apples and oranges. Flying a tin can doesn't qualify you to
fly a fighter jet or airliner. Flying a fighter jet doesn't qualify you to
fly an airliner or tin can. And so on.

Mxsmanic wrote in
news
Ron writes:

It doesn't matter. Flying is aviating in the air no matter what your
aircraft is.

No, sorry, it's apples and oranges.


It's **** and shinola. Your ass and your elbow..



Flying a tin can doesn't qualify
you to fly a fighter jet or airliner. Flying a fighter jet doesn't
qualify you to fly an airliner or tin can. And so on.



And you aren't qualified to fly a rubbr band powered stick and tissue
model.

Tell you what, you succesfully build and fly one and you can come back with
a frsh opportunity to actually speak as someone who has aviated!



But you won't....

Bertie

On Sat, 15 Dec 2007 10:42:34 +0100, Mxsmanic
wrote:

Ron writes:

It doesn't matter. Flying is aviating in the air no matter what your
aircraft is.

No, sorry, it's apples and oranges. Flying a tin can doesn't qualify you to
fly a fighter jet or airliner. Flying a fighter jet doesn't qualify you to
fly an airliner or tin can. And so on.


We aren't talking about quaification for flying any aircraft. We are
talking about your inability to compare sims to real flying because
you have no real flying experience.

Simulators are not the same as flying an airplane... ANY aiarplane.
Stop trying to change the subject. It won't work.

Bye.

Ron Kelley

Ron writes:

We aren't talking about quaification for flying any aircraft. We are
talking about your inability to compare sims to real flying because
you have no real flying experience.

By that measure, the only flying you can talk about is the flying you've done.
So unless you've flown airliners or fighter jets, you can't talk about those.

Mxsmanic wrote in
:

Ron writes:

We aren't talking about quaification for flying any aircraft. We are
talking about your inability to compare sims to real flying because
you have no real flying experience.

By that measure, the only flying you can talk about is the flying
you've done. So unless you've flown airliners or fighter jets, you
can't talk about those.



You're bull****ting and changing the subject. Plus, you refuse to talk to
anyone who has flown them.


bertie

On Dec 15, 10:42 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
Ron writes:
It doesn't matter. Flying is aviating in the air no matter what your
aircraft is.

No, sorry, it's apples and oranges. Flying a tin can doesn't qualify you to
fly a fighter jet or airliner. Flying a fighter jet doesn't qualify you to
fly an airliner or tin can. And so on.

Oh?
Only in your twisted world.
Where do you think all those student pilots are headed for?
Real flying hours are the qualification for further licenses and
promotions.
5000 hours in a fighter, 'tin can' or an airliner will get you a very
nice seat in any of the others

"george" wrote in message
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On Dec 15, 10:42 pm, Mxsmanic wrote:

Oh?
Only in your twisted world.
Where do you think all those student pilots are headed for?
Real flying hours are the qualification for further licenses and
promotions.
5000 hours in a fighter, 'tin can' or an airliner will get you a very
nice seat in any of the others

You're wasting your time. Anthony isn't interested in aviation. He's
interested in provoking people. He got you to reply, which is all he's
looking for.

On Dec 22, 1:02 pm, "nobody" wrote:


You're wasting your time. Anthony isn't interested in aviation. He's
interested in provoking people. He got you to reply, which is all he's
looking for.

Ignore something like mixedup and students and others who are not to
sure which end is forward might start to think that he might be
right..
I shall continue to point out to mixedup (and others) that he has a
100% error rate

george writes:

Where do you think all those student pilots are headed for?

I don't know how many student pilots ever progress beyond the basic PPL. Do
you?

5000 hours in a fighter, 'tin can' or an airliner will get you a very
nice seat in any of the others

All by itself?