European military prowess

In message , Alan Minyard
writes
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:34:20 +0100, Ralph Savelsberg ralph_sa
wrote:
Could you please explain what you mean by `the Dutch marching band'?

He means the Dutch "military", which is an international joke.

The Dutch Marines are not to be despised. Of course, that's just the
opinion of the British Royal Marines...

--
When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite.
W S Churchill

Paul J. Adam MainBoxatjrwlynch[dot]demon{dot}co(.)uk

(Marcus Andersson) wrote:


But when it comes to fighting a_real_war, I'm sure the Dutch are
significantly more competent. I'm sure the Dutch train for actual
warfare, unlike that girl scout camp the U.S. military calls "boot
camp". (where they btw must have so low demands so that noone fails,
since they need every single volunteer. For those who didn't know, the
U.S. "military" has big recruiting problems.)

snort When you fail at trolling you're a failure indeed...

You don't need to worry about suicide, you'd almost certainly
fail...
--

-Gord.

He means the Dutch "military", which is an international joke.

The only "joke" about the Dutch military is their grooming standards and
decidely different customs and courtesies. Beyond that, if I were a pilot of an
agressor state, I would not mess with Dutch F-16AM units. The Dutch were great
allies during Allied Force and *both* Iraqi conflicts.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

BTW, if pilots being `high
on drugs' is a reason to call an Air Force incompetent or a joke, you
shouldn't forget the USAF's use of amphetamines to keep some of its
pilots going.

I've never taken them, but have seen plenty of people who have. I wouldn't say
that the "go pill" makes you "high", unless you believe alertness after being
up for 24 hours is feeling "high".


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

Let's see.... I've gotten the impression Dan Ford a.k.a. Cub Driver
is from the United States... which hasn't got any military forces at
all, unless you count those "old guards" and whatnot they have for
shows.

But when it comes to fighting a_real_war, I'm sure the Dutch are
significantly more competent. I'm sure the Dutch train for actual
warfare, unlike that girl scout camp the U.S. military calls "boot
camp". (where they btw must have so low demands so that noone fails,
since they need every single volunteer. For those who didn't know, the
U.S. "military" has big recruiting problems.)


You're as ignorant of the US military as he was of the Dutch.


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

In article ,
"Paul J. Adam" wrote:

In message , Alan Minyard
writes
On Mon, 27 Oct 2003 09:34:20 +0100, Ralph Savelsberg ralph_sa
wrote:
Could you please explain what you mean by `the Dutch marching band'?

He means the Dutch "military", which is an international joke.

The Dutch Marines are not to be despised. Of course, that's just the
opinion of the British Royal Marines...

Whom also are not to be despised...

BUFDRVR wrote:

Let's see.... I've gotten the impression Dan Ford a.k.a. Cub Driver
is from the United States... which hasn't got any military forces at
all, unless you count those "old guards" and whatnot they have for
shows.

But when it comes to fighting a_real_war, I'm sure the Dutch are
significantly more competent. I'm sure the Dutch train for actual
warfare, unlike that girl scout camp the U.S. military calls "boot
camp". (where they btw must have so low demands so that noone fails,
since they need every single volunteer. For those who didn't know, the
U.S. "military" has big recruiting problems.)



You're as ignorant of the US military as he was of the Dutch.


BUFDRVR


I wasn't quite sure whether he was displaying sarcasm or merely
stupidity, so decided not to respond.

Ralph Savelsberg

BUFDRVR wrote:

BTW, if pilots being `high
on drugs' is a reason to call an Air Force incompetent or a joke, you
shouldn't forget the USAF's use of amphetamines to keep some of its
pilots going.


I've never taken them, but have seen plenty of people who have. I wouldn't say
that the "go pill" makes you "high", unless you believe alertness after being
up for 24 hours is feeling "high".


BUFDRVR

"Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips
everyone on Bear Creek"

I don't really know how to define `high' in this respect. In any case the use of amphetamines

was an issue in connection with the friendly fire incident in Afghanistan in which two USAF F-16s

bombed Canadian troops. I must admit I don't know the outcome of that. Has there been a conclusion?


Regards,
Ralph Savelsberg

(BUFDRVR) wrote in message ...
Let's see.... I've gotten the impression Dan Ford a.k.a. Cub Driver
is from the United States... which hasn't got any military forces at
all, unless you count those "old guards" and whatnot they have for
shows.

But when it comes to fighting a_real_war, I'm sure the Dutch are
significantly more competent. I'm sure the Dutch train for actual
warfare, unlike that girl scout camp the U.S. military calls "boot
camp". (where they btw must have so low demands so that noone fails,
since they need every single volunteer. For those who didn't know, the
U.S. "military" has big recruiting problems.)


You're as ignorant of the US military as he was of the Dutch.


How do you mean?
Not even the U.S. government or military are trying to make anyone
believe they have materiel good for use in a real war.

Just look at the fighter planes, which wouldn't survive for 10 minutes
on an air base. I'm not saying the USAF should get rid of them though,
since they are completely adequate for their needs. Any country would
envy the US, which can choose which wars they want to fight. And when
you know you can park your planes out of reach for the enemy, they can
be as fragile as for instance the F-16 is.

"Gord Beaman" ) wrote in message . ..
(Marcus Andersson) wrote:


But when it comes to fighting a_real_war, I'm sure the Dutch are
significantly more competent. I'm sure the Dutch train for actual
warfare, unlike that girl scout camp the U.S. military calls "boot
camp". (where they btw must have so low demands so that noone fails,
since they need every single volunteer. For those who didn't know, the
U.S. "military" has big recruiting problems.)

snort When you fail at trolling you're a failure indeed...

You don't need to worry about suicide, you'd almost certainly
fail...

If you tried to take a look at the real world, you would possibly not
make such a big fool out of yourself in the future. Hopefully.