Oh, he's good...

On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
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On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related

While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.

Wil

This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.

Bertie

Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol

True!

in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!

Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.

Like I said, it's easy. Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.

Bertie

I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

Dan

wrote in news:1f7e6fcc-3e5e-4924-a0e9-
:

I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)

Doesn't your Jodel have that funky differential braking system, or is it a
homebuilt one?

The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

Just gotta be a little more careful of holes!


Bertie

On Feb 10, 3:13 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Doesn't your Jodel have that funky differential braking system, or is it a
homebuilt one?

Homebuilt. Hydraulic heel brakes. Master cylinders are from early
1950's Austin automobiles. Still working.

Dan

wrote in
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On Feb 10, 3:13 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

Doesn't your Jodel have that funky differential braking system, or is
it a homebuilt one?

Homebuilt. Hydraulic heel brakes. Master cylinders are from early
1950's Austin automobiles. Still working.


Cool. Someset, Dorset, A35?

I've only flown one Jodel. It's an amazing airplane. A 1040, I think.
100hp, originally a Potez, but the guy got tired of finding parts so he put
an O-200 in it. It sould actually carry four out of a short field and three
with full fuel which was about 6 hours IIRC. cruised at about 100knots as
well.Why would anyone fly a 150 after having met one of those?



Bertie

Cool. Someset, Dorset, A35?

I've only flown one Jodel. It's an amazing airplane. A 1040, I think.
100hp, originally a Potez, but the guy got tired of finding parts so he put
an O-200 in it. It sould actually carry four out of a short field and three
with full fuel which was about 6 hours IIRC. cruised at about 100knots as
well.Why would anyone fly a 150 after having met one of those?

Bertie

Mine's a D-11. All wood, fabric cover. A-65 Continental. 85 kt
cruise. Two seats. Good STOL airplane unless it's a high DA day and at
gross. 15 gallons and 4 or 5 GPH, so not a lot of range.
Even this one makes a 150 look anemic.

Dan

wrote in
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Cool. Someset, Dorset, A35?

I've only flown one Jodel. It's an amazing airplane. A 1040, I think.
100hp, originally a Potez, but the guy got tired of finding parts so
he put an O-200 in it. It sould actually carry four out of a short
field and three with full fuel which was about 6 hours IIRC. cruised
at about 100knots as well.Why would anyone fly a 150 after having met
one of those?

Bertie

Mine's a D-11. All wood, fabric cover. A-65 Continental. 85 kt
cruise. Two seats. Good STOL airplane unless it's a high DA day and at
gross. 15 gallons and 4 or 5 GPH, so not a lot of range.
Even this one makes a 150 look anemic.


Yeah, I've seen a D12 fly, I think, take off and it was amazing. It was
over fifty feet high at less than 800' of runway and that was with two guys
on and only a light breeze. I beleive it had an A-65. All of those little
wooden French airplanes are really nice. I always fancied an Emeraude or a
SIPA.


bertie

On Feb 10, 5:02*pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:

On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related

While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.

Wil

This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.

Bertie

Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol

True!

in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!

Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. *I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.

Like I said, it's easy. *Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.

Bertie

* * * * *I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
* * * * *The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

* * * * Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll take y'alls' word for it. Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol It
isn't only the price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:





William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll take y'alls' word for it. Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol It
isn't only the price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.


--
Dudley Henriques

On Feb 10, 9:10*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. *I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. *Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks..
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
* * * * *I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
* * * * *The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

* * * * Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll take y'alls' word for it. *Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol *It
isn't only the *price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.

--
Dudley Henriques- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One day in the future Dudley.


Here's a good video of an L4 doing a high tail taxi after a side slip
landing all the way down to a touch down. I really ant a STOL NOW.

Wil

On Feb 10, 10:25*pm, William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:10*pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:





William Hung wrote:
On Feb 10, 5:02 pm, wrote:
On Feb 10, 9:23 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:

William Hung wrote in news:d5ad9f37-e01f-4e0b-9aad-
:
On Feb 10, 11:11 am, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
William Hung wrote in news:b91186d4-fa32-498d-
ac70-
:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=FCWFMJaBLl0&feature=related
While "researching" stol aircrafts, I came across this.
Wil
This is actualy pretty easy to do in a lot of taildraggers,
especially a
cub. Just a bit of brake against power with some forward stick. You
can
taxi around all day like this.
Bertie
Keeping the tail off the ground? I suppose it is even easier in a
tricycle geared ones. lol
True!
in some of those I've taxied with the nosewheel off the ground, though!
Inches from a prop-strike, seconds from a prop-strike. *I wonder how
many engines he had to have torn down before he got that good.
Like I said, it's easy. *Anyone could do it in a cub with only a little
practice. If it starts to go too far you release the brakes and it sits
down. It's as simple as that. It's lots lots lots easier than it looks.
One problem is that you have a good bit of power on, especially at very
low speeds and your prop is down near the ground where it can pick up
grit.
Bertie
* * * * *I learned to stop the 185 really short doing just this. And
taxied the old Auster like that. Not as hard as it looks, but you sure
gotta be careful. My Jodel, on the other hand, is really finely
balanced, rather light in the tail, and I've never had the nerve to do
it. Maybe this spring:-)
* * * * *The taildragger's CG is usually 15° behind the main axles.
Picking up the tail of a taildragger, you can hoist it over your head
so that it's pointing down at 15° or so, and it'll balance there. Prop
horizontal so it doesn't get stabbed into the pavement. With the
brakes on and engine run up, it's easy enough to keep the tail from
rising to that level.

* * * * Dan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I'll take y'alls' word for it. *Damned if I'll risk a prop strike at
my level of experience to find out how easy it is first hand. lol *It
isn't only the *price of a new prop that concerns me, it is that and
the rpice of the engine tear down.

Wil

Well....that's plan B......and could very well be necessary. A prop
strike can do serious things inside an engine.
You just discovered the first rule of display flying. It's not a
business where you make a mistake, step back ten yards and punt. The
thing is....you don't get the prop strike to begin with. If you do, you
shouldn't be there.

--
Dudley Henriques- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

One day in the future Dudley.

Here's a good video of an L4 doing a high tail taxi after a side slip
landing all the way down to a touch down. *I really ant a STOL NOW.

Wil- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Woopsie, furgit the link. Here it tis.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW8GR...eature=related

Wil