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  #11  
Old March 21st 08, 01:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
WJRFlyBoy
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Default Can anyone I.D. this helicopter please?

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 16:36:32 -0700 (PDT), Gordon wrote:

On Mar 20, 12:14*pm, WJRFlyBoy wrote:
On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 23:07:49 -0700 (PDT), Gordon wrote:
Mi 24 Hind


The Croc, a sorta Apache/Blackhawk combo. Mean as it looks.


I haven't seen a Hind called that before - usually, they referred to
them as Gorbach (Hunchback). They had another nickname that escapes
me at the moment.


I heard hunchback but didn't know what it was. Afghan training called
them Crocs, they were mean but also long roll takeoffs and heat to shoot
at all the live long day.
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Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.
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Old March 21st 08, 01:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
WJRFlyBoy
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Default Can anyone I.D. this helicopter please?

On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:13 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
not magic.


It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are. Does
that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?


It's a Turbine. It has to have. Usually it regulates somewhere between 93
and 103% depending on what you want it to do. It's a combination of fuel
control and rotor pitch.


Never saw it but heard several field stories that said they would clip
their own blades on sharp banked turns.
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Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.
  #13  
Old March 21st 08, 11:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Daryl Hunt[_2_]
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Default Can anyone I.D. this helicopter please?


"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:13 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
not magic.

It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are.
Does
that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?


It's a Turbine. It has to have. Usually it regulates somewhere between
93
and 103% depending on what you want it to do. It's a combination of fuel
control and rotor pitch.


Never saw it but heard several field stories that said they would clip
their own blades on sharp banked turns.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.


Never heard of that one. Hmm, thier blades are much more flexible than
ours. But to clip them? Define what you mean by "Clip them".



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Old March 21st 08, 12:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Hit the tailboom.



On Mar 21, 6:52*am, "Daryl Hunt" wrote:
"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message

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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:13 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:


My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. *The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
not magic. *


It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are.
Does
that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?


It's a Turbine. *It has to have. *Usually it regulates somewhere between
93
and 103% depending on what you want it to do. *It's a combination of fuel
control and rotor pitch.


Never saw it but heard several field stories that said they would clip
their own blades on sharp banked turns.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.


Never heard of that one. *Hmm, thier blades are much more flexible than
ours. *But to clip them? *Define what you mean by "Clip them".

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Old March 21st 08, 02:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Daryl Hunt[_2_]
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"frank" wrote in message
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Hit the tailboom.


Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and round
have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.





On Mar 21, 6:52 am, "Daryl Hunt" wrote:
"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message

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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 18:30:13 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:


My old pal, the Mi 24 Hind. The apparent stoppage of the rotors is
due to their rotation nearly matching the refresh rate of the video -
not magic.


It's amazing how well in sync the rotors and the camera shutter are.
Does
that helicopter have some kind of computer controlled rpm governor?


It's a Turbine. It has to have. Usually it regulates somewhere between
93
and 103% depending on what you want it to do. It's a combination of
fuel
control and rotor pitch.


Never saw it but heard several field stories that said they would clip
their own blades on sharp banked turns.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.


Never heard of that one. Hmm, thier blades are much more flexible than
ours. But to clip them? Define what you mean by "Clip them".

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Old March 21st 08, 04:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:27:56 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

"frank" wrote in message
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Hit the tailboom.


Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and round
have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.


I never could figure out unless it dropped rearward the top rotor and
there was flex forward in the tail.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.
  #17  
Old March 22nd 08, 12:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Daryl Hunt[_2_]
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Default Can anyone I.D. this helicopter please?


"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
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On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:27:56 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

"frank" wrote in message
...

Hit the tailboom.


Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and
round
have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.


I never could figure out unless it dropped rearward the top rotor and
there was flex forward in the tail.


Or by hitting ground so hard that the tail cracks upward and the blades are
bent downward. That would do it.



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Old March 22nd 08, 01:07 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
WJRFlyBoy
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Default Can anyone I.D. this helicopter please?

On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:00:44 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:27:56 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

"frank" wrote in message
...

Hit the tailboom.

Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and
round
have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.


I never could figure out unless it dropped rearward the top rotor and
there was flex forward in the tail.


Or by hitting ground so hard that the tail cracks upward and the blades are
bent downward. That would do it.


lol Sure would but it was banking that it would chop its tail rotor, I
dunno, the whole thing is weird but I understand about zip with helis
anyway.
--
Remove numbers for gmail and for God's sake it ain't "gee" either!
I hesitate to add to this discussion because I'm not an instructor,
just a rather slow student who's not qualified to give advice that
might kill someone.
  #19  
Old March 23rd 08, 12:38 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
Daryl Hunt[_2_]
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Default Can anyone I.D. this helicopter please?


"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:00:44 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

"WJRFlyBoy" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 21 Mar 2008 08:27:56 -0600, Daryl Hunt wrote:

"frank" wrote in message
...

Hit the tailboom.

Hmm, guess it's possible if the Blades on the thingee going round and
round
have enough flex. Just never heard of it before.

I never could figure out unless it dropped rearward the top rotor and
there was flex forward in the tail.


Or by hitting ground so hard that the tail cracks upward and the blades
are
bent downward. That would do it.


lol Sure would but it was banking that it would chop its tail rotor, I
dunno, the whole thing is weird but I understand about zip with helis
anyway.


Maybe it was banking and slipped into the side of a Canyon. (g)



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