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On Tue, 25 Mar 2008 10:20:05 -0700 (PDT), Dan
wrote: On Mar 25, 1:08 pm, Larry Dighera wrote: I believe it takes someone with the burning desire to overcome the obstacles to his/her achieving their dream of flight to make a competent airman, not someone who needs to be coddled into it. There is so much to MASTER (physics, motor skills, navigation, meteorology, regulations, command, communications, procedures, ...), that mere coaxing and prodding isn't going to be a sufficient motivational force for someone who lacks the inate desire, and yes love, of flight. Of course this is just my subjective opinion. I disagree -- not everyone ENTERS aviation with the "burning desire" because they don't even know what it is! It's safe to say, that not EVERYONE does anything for a single reason. But in my opinion, those who lack the visceral component of appreciation of flight, will not be sufficiently motivated to become airmen worthy of the title. It's like the physician who pursue's that profession solely for the monetary compensation; he'll never be as competent as the one who possesses a sincere desire to help his fellow man. I heard this same uninformed and somewhat tendentious argument regarding Infantrymen by Old Sergeants who forgot how clueless they were when they started out "These kids are so soft! They have no idea what it takes! Blah blah blah..." My answer to them was consistent -- "That's YOUR job -- make them soldiers, just as you were made, because you sure as *$#@ weren't born one." I believe your analogy is flawed, because an infantryman needn't possess the same depth of knowledge and skill in such a diverse range of disciplines as an airman, but I have no personal knowledge of their training. The entry rate has declined, period. You can say whatever about ability, etc but there are fewer GA pilots today than 20 years ago, and the population has grown. Did the GI Bill still subsidize flight instruction twenty years ago? Has the cost and complexity of piloting risen disproportionately against inflation? Have the DHS imposed hurdles impacted new starts? Are public schools failing to give students the confidence they can successfully accomplish their dreams, the same way they have failed to educate the current generations? (Tangent: Our Republican governor wants to cut our state's education budget by $4.8 billion: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...&type=politics ) Walk around most GA airports on a Saturday and you'll see mostly grey haired old guys. The few young guys are usually the CFIs working for hours. The rare woman is a an anomaly. I agree with that, but what of those young foreigners crowding the Part 141 schools? There's still plenty of young new starts. My job title is Senior Systems Engineer -- I've been in engineering a few decades and I can tell you if you think you need engineering knowledge or ability to fly safely you're simply mistaken. It would seem you are qualified to make that judgement. I wonder why we see it differently. Perhaps our definition of 'engineering knowledge.' Take for example a woman I know. She's been the manager of law offices with scores of attorneys for decades, but she'll NEVER be able to understand, let alone use, the arcane weight and balance graphs in the PA28 POH. She's intelligent, but here aptitudes lie elsewhere mostly in the social arena. She knows this, and self-selects against becoming an airman. No amount of marketing or coercion will change her, nor would it be appropriate. There's nothing all that complicated that can't be explained and therefore retained and applied by the average ability adult. But we're losing a large fraction of potential new pilots every year because the [sic] come to the airport, walk around and look at airplanes, yet never get greeted, never get someone's interest, and never get "sold." I don't believe that it is appropriate nor desirable to "sell" becoming an airman, anymore than it is appropriate for a clergyman to sell religion. One is either smitten or not. Further, I don't believe those potential flight students who are lost through intimidation by less than optimal flight schools are the sort of folks that make good pilots. The last thing I would desire to see foisted on would be aviators is the deceit and duplicity of marketeers. Not the point. Someone in your life "sold" you on aviation -- who was it, and what did he/she do to get you hooked? I was sold on aviation by two things. 1. Laying on my back as a child on the lawn gazing up into the vivid blue sky and contemplating the cottony cumulus turrets, and mentally cavorting among them. 2. Obsessive dreams of flight without the benefit of appliances. I was sold, but it took my college roommate to drag me down to the local airport one Saturday morning for an introductory flight to get me on the path toward an airmans certificate. The instructor took me around the patch a few times. I enjoyed it, and perceived (however inaccurately) that it was no more difficult than riding my motorcycle in the third dimension. Because I had been employed in construction during the summer operating a 30 foot forklift for months positioning workmen up against the ceiling of the warehouses we were building, so they could install the high-bay lighting, I felt confident in my motor skills and abilities to think in three dimensions. I became ever increasingly more adept at simultaneously moving the work platform smoothly in three dimensions, and was proud of my new skills and the responsibility placed on me. Obviously the foreman and those workman who depended on me for their life safety were comfortable with my skills, thus affirming my view. So it was, not only my inate love of ascending into the heavens that prepared me for pursuing an airmans certificate, but my recent experience and the confidence it brought, and the suggestion of a former soldier who wanted to take advantage of his GI benefits. No one drops into this without contact with a person or people who help pave the way. I hadn't thought about that, but it is true in my case. A similar thing happened shortly after I earned my certificate. A customer mentioned that soaring was a fun and challenging pursuit. He was in the process of reinvigorating the Southern California Soaring Association, and trying to drum up new members. He put a lot of effort into lining up instructors who donated their services to members, providing the equipment and training for auto-towing off El Mirage Dry Lake out in the Mojave Desert, and possessed an appealing mix of hearty fellow well met contraire and sincere love of the sport. It was contagious. This experience, near Edwards AFB, afforded me an opportunity to mingle with some first rate test pilot types and other's like Peter Lert, and resulted in my earning a glider rating as well as many enjoyable hours of silent flight, and a much more profound comprehension of weather phenomena. So reflecting back on my personal experiences that lead me to earning a certificate, I would have to say, that it was a combination of my inate love of the freedom of flying, becoming exposed to aviation by someone who I respected, being mentally and phallically prepared, finding flight challenging and enjoyable, and most importantly, affordable. |
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On Mar 25, 3:58 pm, Larry Dighera wrote:
I believe your analogy is flawed, because an infantryman needn't possess the same depth of knowledge and skill in such a diverse range of disciplines as an airman, but I have no personal knowledge of their training. The minority of pilots correctly can run through every emergency action blindfolded. Any Armor PFC better know how to tear down, troubleshoot, re-assemble, function check and fire an M-16, M9, .50 Cal, M-240, 102 MM Main Gun Breech Block, Boresight, Repair track, and a few other tasks on the Tank Crew Qualification prior to heading down range to qualify. Infantrymen have more qualification (individual and collective) tasks. As much respect and regard I have for pilots (I am one!), it doesn't take a physicist or an engineer to adequately fly an airplane safely. The Wright brothers invented flight with a meager elementary education. Dan Mc |
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Dan wrote:
The Wright brothers invented flight with a meager elementary education. Dan Mc So true; and some of what they discovered and dealt with in aerodynamics is still good data today. Not bad for a pair of non-engineer bike shop owners huh????!! :-))))) -- Dudley Henriques |
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On Mar 25, 4:52 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote:
Dan wrote: The Wright brothers invented flight with a meager elementary education. Dan Mc So true; and some of what they discovered and dealt with in aerodynamics is still good data today. Not bad for a pair of non-engineer bike shop owners huh????!! :-))))) -- Dudley Henriques Cyclists are a superior breed, certainly! :-) |
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Dan wrote:
On Mar 25, 4:52 pm, Dudley Henriques wrote: Dan wrote: The Wright brothers invented flight with a meager elementary education. Dan Mc So true; and some of what they discovered and dealt with in aerodynamics is still good data today. Not bad for a pair of non-engineer bike shop owners huh????!! :-))))) -- Dudley Henriques Cyclists are a superior breed, certainly! :-) Most assuredly!! :-)) -- Dudley Henriques |
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