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On Thu, 3 Apr 2008 17:01:21 -0700 (PDT), RubberWatch
wrote: Hello- I am a student pilot. I was out flying solo today and was instructed by ATC to fly a heading of 210. What class of airspace were you in at the time? I thought he said 110 and I flew on that heading. He then told me it looks like your going the wrong direction i need you to fly 210. At this stage in your training, you might want to consider informing the controller on initial call-up, that you are a student. But it sounds like no paint was swapped, and everything worked out. I got a bit locked up and said 210. I ended up on 210 but I really kinda got "mike fright". The surest cure for radio communications uneasiness is a copy of Bob Gardner's "Say Again, Please": http://www.asa2fly.com/Communication..._product1.aspx Once you know what to expect and what is expected, you'll be more comfortable. Anyway, I just wanted to know if this would constitute a violation and if I might receive something in the mail, etc? Only the controller knows for sure. :-) The clock is ticking. It won't hurt you become familiar with how to file an ASRS form: http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/report/electronic.html http://asrs.arc.nasa.gov/overview/briefing/br_6.html The Immunity Concept (FAA Advisory Circular AC No. 00-46D) c. The filing of a report with NASA concerning an incident or occurrence involving a violation of 49 U.S.C. Subtitle IV, or the FAR, is considered by FAA to be indicative of a constructive attitude. Such an attitude will tend to prevent future violations. Accordingly, although a finding of a violation may be made, neither a civil penalty nor certificate suspension will be imposed if: The violation was inadvertent and not deliberate; The violation did not involve a criminal offense, or accident, or action under 49U.S.C. Section 44709 which discloses a lack of qualification or competency, which are wholly excluded from this policy: The person has not been found in any prior FAA enforcement action to have committed a violation of 49 U.S. C. Subtitle VIII, or any regulation promulgated there for a period of 5 years prior to the date of the occurrence; and The person proves that, within 10 days after the violation, he or she completed and delivered or mailed a written report of the incident or occurrence to NASA under ASRS. See paragraphs 5c and 7b. NOTE: Paragraph 9 does not apply to air traffic controllers. He later told me to "resume own navigaion" and I did not know what that meant...I asked him if I could do my airwork and he said resume on navigation meant I can do anything I want. ATC phraseology is standardized. A competent airman uses standard terms when communicating with ATC. You'll find it all he http://www.faa.gov/airports_airtraff.../PCG/index.htm That said, you did good asking the controller for clarification. Never be afraid to query the controller about any possible misunderstanding. He did not ask me to call a land line or anything like that, though when I requested to change to my CTAF as I had the airport in site, he said frequency change approved and squalk VFR when I am on the ground. Any thoughts? SD Your instructor will be impressed when you tell him you filed a NASA form and now know how to communicate with ATC in standard phraseology. [rec.aviation.student added] |
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