Cindy McCain Pilot?

On May 1, 11:10*am, Larry Dighera wrote:
On Thu, 1 May 2008 14:51:28 +0000 (UTC), Frank Stutzman
wrote in
:

Larry Dighera wrote:

Does anyone have any additional information about here piloting?

A fellow on the Bonanza list flys out of Sedona. *According to him,
Cindy is indeed a pilot. *

Thanks.

She owns some sort of a business jet,

From the news reports I read, the jet is operated by her late father's
corporation.

but I'm unsure if she flys it. *

If I recall correctly, on Leno's program she indicated that she was
piloting small aircraft. *I took that to mean four to six seat
singles.

From your post it sounds like she does.

I doubt the took the time to master operating a biz-jet yet alone find
the time to remain current and attend recurrent training, but you
never know.

Certainly seems at odds with John's stance on general aviation, no?

I'm not aware of candidate's stance. *I suppose, if one considers that
he refused AOPA president Phil Boyer's appoint to the federal
Management Advisory Committee that he heads, it's not to difficult to
see he's not a GA advocate.

His attitude is apparent in this hearing transcript:http://bulk.resource.org/gpo.gov/hea...106s/80849.pdf

McCain has Boyer pegged for the liar that he is. Give him hell,
McCain!!

On May 1, 1:22 pm, Skylune wrote:
On May 1, 11:10 am, Larry Dighera wrote:



On Thu, 1 May 2008 14:51:28 +0000 (UTC), Frank Stutzman
wrote in
:

Larry Dighera wrote:

Does anyone have any additional information about here piloting?

A fellow on the Bonanza list flys out of Sedona. According to him,
Cindy is indeed a pilot.

Thanks.

She owns some sort of a business jet,

From the news reports I read, the jet is operated by her late father's
corporation.

but I'm unsure if she flys it.

If I recall correctly, on Leno's program she indicated that she was
piloting small aircraft. I took that to mean four to six seat
singles.

From your post it sounds like she does.

I doubt the took the time to master operating a biz-jet yet alone find
the time to remain current and attend recurrent training, but you
never know.

Certainly seems at odds with John's stance on general aviation, no?

I'm not aware of candidate's stance. I suppose, if one considers that
he refused AOPA president Phil Boyer's appoint to the federal
Management Advisory Committee that he heads, it's not to difficult to
see he's not a GA advocate.

His attitude is apparent in this hearing transcript:http://bulk.resource.org/gpo.gov/hea...106s/80849.pdf

McCain has Boyer pegged for the liar that he is. Give him hell,
McCain!!

I don't know who's pegging who.

But I do know something about creeping fees.
Remember that Alternative Minimum Tax, that was only for the rich? I
nearly got hit by that, and by no means am I rich! (Or I'd have the
little airplane!) the AMT nearly bit me because I was putting so much
in 401k and Roth accounts, which I have to do since I have no other
retirement sources.

I have no doubt at all that what might be just for "corporate fat
cats" would soon include fat cat owners of C152s. All airplane owners
are rich, remember?

To me, the fuel tax is a very workable answer. You can charge it to
the little Cessnas and the big jets as well. It doesn't require any
additional overhead for accounting. The only issue there would be
those who are using autogas. But hey, nothing's perfect.

On May 1, 8:25 pm, wrote:


To me, the fuel tax is a very workable answer. You can charge it to
the little Cessnas and the big jets as well. It doesn't require any
additional overhead for accounting. The only issue there would be
those who are using autogas. But hey, nothing's perfect.

Autofuel includes 18.4c federal tax for the highway fund. Considering
FAA funding is partially coming from the general fund, I would say
autofuel pilots are paying their fare share of fuel tax.

On Sat, 3 May 2008 13:12:50 -0700 (PDT), M wrote:

On May 1, 8:25 pm, wrote:


To me, the fuel tax is a very workable answer. You can charge it to
the little Cessnas and the big jets as well. It doesn't require any
additional overhead for accounting. The only issue there would be
those who are using autogas. But hey, nothing's perfect.

Autofuel includes 18.4c federal tax for the highway fund. Considering
FAA funding is partially coming from the general fund, I would say
autofuel pilots are paying their fare share of fuel tax.

That's fed funny money. The money comes from the Aviation Trust Fund,
but has to be funneled and approved through the general fund. IOW It's
aviation money, from aviation, earmarked for aviation, but has to be
approved as if it were the general fund (read public) paying it. This
gives the feds more control over what at first appears to actually
come from the general fund even when it doesn't. So they are
currently using it to argue for "user funds" when they have a working
system that could continue to be self supporting. What should be very
straight forward is very convoluted.


Roger (K8RI) ARRL Life Member
N833R (World's oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

On May 3, 10:13*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 3 May 2008 13:12:50 -0700 (PDT), M wrote:
On May 1, 8:25 pm, wrote:

To me, the fuel tax is a very workable answer. *You can charge it to
the little Cessnas and the big jets as well. *It doesn't require any
additional overhead for accounting. *The only issue there would be
those who are using autogas. *But hey, nothing's perfect.

Autofuel includes 18.4c federal tax for the highway fund. *Considering
FAA funding is partially coming from the general fund, I would say
autofuel pilots are paying their fare share of fuel tax.

That's fed funny money. *The money comes from the Aviation Trust Fund,
but has to be funneled and approved through the general fund. IOW It's
aviation money, from aviation, earmarked for aviation, but has to be
approved as if it were the general fund (read public) paying it. *This
gives the feds more control over what at first appears to actually
come from *the general fund even when it doesn't. So they are
currently using it to argue for "user funds" when they have a working
system that could continue to be self supporting. *What should be very
straight forward is very convoluted.

Roger (K8RI) *ARRL Life Member
N833R (World's oldest Debonair)www.rogerhalstead.com

Holy cow. Where did you get that nonsense. The so called "Trust Fund"
is called that because it is set apart from general appropriations.
The money in the trust fund comes almost all from commercial ticket
taxes, and General Fund (i.e. general taxpayer) support. GA pays less
than 3% of the annual revenue into the trust fund, and is arguably
(with certain agriculture) the most subsidized industry in the
nation.

You really got to not rely on what nonsense Boyer puts out. Its all
nonsense spin, and outright lies when it comes to funding.

wrote:

But I do know something about creeping fees.
Remember that Alternative Minimum Tax, that was only for the rich?

Only for the rich who don't pay taxes like the rest of us.
I get hit for it even though I'm 100% normally taxed on withholding.
No tax dodges, no non-taxted, shelters, plain old income.