Air Carriers and Biz-jets Target GA Recreational Fliers

On May 22, 6:00 pm, "Steven P. McNicoll"
wrote:
"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message

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No argument here. ATC was created primarily to increase the safety of
airline travel, after some spectacular mid-airs in the early years.

Such as? I can think of only one rather non-spectacular mid-air collision
of airliners prior to the creation of ATC.

Perhaps I should have said "ATC was expanded primarily to increase the
safety of airline travel". Notable accidents that created public
outcry to empower ATC we
DC7 and Constellation in 1956 over Grand Canyon
DC8 and Constellation in 1960 over New York

I don't think it is a coincidence that every class B or C airspace is
located at airports that primarily serve airline traffic. Class D
tower is the highest I've seen at GA airports, and even there it
appears to be mostly due to historic reasons (ie it used to be a
military field or used to have airline traffic some time in the past).
Some airports operate their class D tower only when scheduled airlines
are expected to arrive and depart.

"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message

No argument here. ATC was created primarily to increase the safety
of airline travel, after some spectacular mid-airs in the early
years.


Such as? I can think of only one rather non-spectacular mid-air
collision of airliners prior to the creation of ATC.


Perhaps I should have said "ATC was expanded primarily to increase the
safety of airline travel". Notable accidents that created public
outcry to empower ATC we
DC7 and Constellation in 1956 over Grand Canyon
DC8 and Constellation in 1960 over New York


ATC was created primarily to increase the safety of airline travel, but it
was created some twenty years before the Grand Canyon midair.



I don't think it is a coincidence that every class B or C airspace is
located at airports that primarily serve airline traffic.


There is Class C airspace at fields that serve exclusively military traffic.

On May 22, 5:27*pm, Andrew Sarangan wrote:

Class D
tower is the highest I've seen at GA airports, and even there it
appears to be mostly due to historic reasons (ie it used to be a
military field or used to have airline traffic some time in the past).
Some airports operate their class D tower only when scheduled airlines
are expected to arrive and depart.

The need for a tower is based on the number or volume of A/C
movements. Also, keep in mind that it takes special authorization for
a 121 carrier to operate IFR in uncontroller airspace.

On May 23, 12:32 pm, "F. Baum" wrote:
On May 22, 5:27 pm, Andrew Sarangan wrote:



Class D
tower is the highest I've seen at GA airports, and even there it
appears to be mostly due to historic reasons (ie it used to be a
military field or used to have airline traffic some time in the past).
Some airports operate their class D tower only when scheduled airlines
are expected to arrive and depart.

The need for a tower is based on the number or volume of A/C
movements. Also, keep in mind that it takes special authorization for
a 121 carrier to operate IFR in uncontroller airspace.

I would be interested to know how many ATC towers have been built for
reasons other than serving 121 carriers or military. Oshkosh is one
example, but are there more?

Andrew Sarangan wrote:

I would be interested to know how many ATC towers have been built for
reasons other than serving 121 carriers or military. Oshkosh is one
example, but are there more?


Oshkosh is NOT one of them. Oshkosh tower was established about eight years
before the EAA moved it's convention from Rockford, North Central Airlines
was providing scheduled service.

Oshkosh is NOT one of them. Oshkosh tower was established about eight
years before the EAA moved it's convention from Rockford, North Central
Airlines was providing scheduled service.

True, but it would certainly have been decommissioned by now, were it not
for Airventure.
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"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:iRJ_j.127265$TT4.587@attbi_s22:

Oshkosh is NOT one of them. Oshkosh tower was established about
eight years before the EAA moved it's convention from Rockford, North
Central Airlines was providing scheduled service.

True, but it would certainly have been decommissioned by now, were it
not for Airventure.

Idiot


Bertie

On May 23, 3:36*pm, Andrew Sarangan wrote:

I would be interested to know how many ATC towers have been built for
reasons other than serving 121 carriers or military. *Oshkosh is one
example, but are there more?


There is a whole bunch of them out west at busy GA airports.

F. Baum wrote:

There is a whole bunch of them out west at busy GA airports.


How many is a whole bunch?

In article
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Andrew Sarangan wrote:

On May 23, 12:32 pm, "F. Baum" wrote:
On May 22, 5:27 pm, Andrew Sarangan wrote:



Class D
tower is the highest I've seen at GA airports, and even there it
appears to be mostly due to historic reasons (ie it used to be a
military field or used to have airline traffic some time in the past).
Some airports operate their class D tower only when scheduled airlines
are expected to arrive and depart.

The need for a tower is based on the number or volume of A/C
movements. Also, keep in mind that it takes special authorization for
a 121 carrier to operate IFR in uncontroller airspace.

I would be interested to know how many ATC towers have been built for
reasons other than serving 121 carriers or military. Oshkosh is one
example, but are there more?

New Smyrna Beach (EVB), Ormond Beach (ORM) to serve Embry-Riddle
University. Also talk abour one at DeLand (DED), too.

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