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Old May 24th 08, 04:50 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell
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Henryk Birecki wrote:
Cambridge CAI302 provides output of
true speed, but no temperature data (?).


The 302 will output outside air temperature.

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Old May 24th 08, 05:35 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Henryk Birecki
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Eric Greenwell wrote:

Henryk Birecki wrote:
Cambridge CAI302 provides output of
true speed, but no temperature data (?).


The 302 will output outside air temperature.


In a fashion. It outputs it as some raw number in LOG 12 mode, but
unless you know all the calibration data, this mode does not do much
good.

Henryk

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Old May 24th 08, 06:16 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell
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Henryk Birecki wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote:

Henryk Birecki wrote:
Cambridge CAI302 provides output of
true speed, but no temperature data (?).

The 302 will output outside air temperature.


In a fashion. It outputs it as some raw number in LOG 12 mode, but
unless you know all the calibration data, this mode does not do much
good.


Well, darn it, I was hoping for some easy way to display it on my PDA. I
can look at it on the 302 itself, but it's 10 button presses and 5 knob
clicks to get to it. A real nuisance.

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* New Jan '08 - sections on Mode S, TPAS, ADS-B, Flarm, more

* "A Guide to Self-launching Sailplane Operation" at www.motorglider.org
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Old May 24th 08, 06:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Marc Ramsey[_2_]
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Eric Greenwell wrote:
Henryk Birecki wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote:

Henryk Birecki wrote:
Cambridge CAI302 provides output of
true speed, but no temperature data (?).
The 302 will output outside air temperature.


In a fashion. It outputs it as some raw number in LOG 12 mode, but
unless you know all the calibration data, this mode does not do much
good.


Well, darn it, I was hoping for some easy way to display it on my PDA. I
can look at it on the 302 itself, but it's 10 button presses and 5 knob
clicks to get to it. A real nuisance.

The other thing the 302 fails to output in normal operating mode is
indicated airspeed (it provides only true airspeed), which one would
definitely want for flight test evaluation purposes...

Marc
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Old May 24th 08, 04:06 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On May 24, 12:36 am, Marc Ramsey wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote:
Henryk Birecki wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote:


Henryk Birecki wrote:
Cambridge CAI302 provides output of
true speed, but no temperature data (?).
The 302 will output outside air temperature.


In a fashion. It outputs it as some raw number in LOG 12 mode, but
unless you know all the calibration data, this mode does not do much
good.


Well, darn it, I was hoping for some easy way to display it on my PDA. I
can look at it on the 302 itself, but it's 10 button presses and 5 knob
clicks to get to it. A real nuisance.


The other thing the 302 fails to output in normal operating mode is
indicated airspeed (it provides only true airspeed), which one would
definitely want for flight test evaluation purposes...

Marc


true, but if we have TAS, outside air temp, and altitude, its a pretty
easy conversion, right?
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Old May 24th 08, 06:42 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Marc Ramsey[_2_]
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wrote:
On May 24, 12:36 am, Marc Ramsey wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote:
Henryk Birecki wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote:
Henryk Birecki wrote:
Cambridge CAI302 provides output of
true speed, but no temperature data (?).
The 302 will output outside air temperature.
In a fashion. It outputs it as some raw number in LOG 12 mode, but
unless you know all the calibration data, this mode does not do much
good.
Well, darn it, I was hoping for some easy way to display it on my PDA. I
can look at it on the 302 itself, but it's 10 button presses and 5 knob
clicks to get to it. A real nuisance.

The other thing the 302 fails to output in normal operating mode is
indicated airspeed (it provides only true airspeed), which one would
definitely want for flight test evaluation purposes...

Marc


true, but if we have TAS, outside air temp, and altitude, its a pretty
easy conversion, right?


Unfortunately, the 302 does not output outside air temperature in normal
operating (LOG 0) mode. Operating in LOG 12 mode will require a fairly
sizable post-processing effort to perform the necessary conversions from
raw sensor data to usable results. If you want to go this route,
contact me via email, I have some code that will help...

Marc
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Old May 24th 08, 07:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
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On May 24, 12:42 pm, Marc Ramsey wrote:
wrote:
On May 24, 12:36 am, Marc Ramsey wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote:
Henryk Birecki wrote:
Eric Greenwell wrote:
Henryk Birecki wrote:
Cambridge CAI302 provides output of
true speed, but no temperature data (?).
The 302 will output outside air temperature.
In a fashion. It outputs it as some raw number in LOG 12 mode, but
unless you know all the calibration data, this mode does not do much
good.
Well, darn it, I was hoping for some easy way to display it on my PDA. I
can look at it on the 302 itself, but it's 10 button presses and 5 knob
clicks to get to it. A real nuisance.
The other thing the 302 fails to output in normal operating mode is
indicated airspeed (it provides only true airspeed), which one would
definitely want for flight test evaluation purposes...


Marc


true, but if we have TAS, outside air temp, and altitude, its a pretty
easy conversion, right?


Unfortunately, the 302 does not output outside air temperature in normal
operating (LOG 0) mode. Operating in LOG 12 mode will require a fairly
sizable post-processing effort to perform the necessary conversions from
raw sensor data to usable results. If you want to go this route,
contact me via email, I have some code that will help...

Marc


ok marc, i understand now. I still ahvent decided on what the best
route is for the data gathering. How much do the 302's typically
run? I glanced over their website and it seemed to me that the bare
logger wasnt too spendy, but then if you wanted to add on a vario
display, etc etc. it could get pretty pricey. what all would I really
need? just the bare logger?
 




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