$6.61 at MDW eeeek!

"skym" wrote in message
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On May 26, 6:50 am, Margy Natalie wrote:
Try buying at a smaller field. IAD is up over $7, but Culpeper is still
under $5 (I can't believe I said that like it's a good thing!)

Margy

I've decided to fly into Schauamberg. Talked to them on the
phone...nice folks.

This fuel may be kill GA. It costing 300 plus now to put gas in the Bonanza.
My buddy parked his Barron. He says it just not fun knowing how much it
costing to fly.
Looks like it will never get better either. How do the guys in these Jets do
it.

This fuel may be kill GA. It costing 300 plus now to put gas in the
Bonanza. My buddy parked his Barron. He says it just not fun knowing how
much it costing to fly.

Strangely, this weekend our ramp was FULL of light twins. Haven't seen any
of those things flying since gas hit $4.50/gallon, but I guess the holiday
weekend brought 'em out of mothballs. Most of the twins at our airport
haven't moved since last fall.

We paid over $300 to top the tanks in Atlas (our Cherokee Pathfinder) in
March (in St. Louis) -- and it really made us stop and think. That's
mostly what made us start looking for a smaller "fun" plane -- which we just
bought yesterday (with two other partners). It's a '48 Ercoupe, and it'll
sip mogas at about 4.8 gph, with my arm hanging out the open top...

:-)

Where there's a will, there's a way.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
news:CcT_j.182132$yE1.97856@attbi_s21:

This fuel may be kill GA. It costing 300 plus now to put gas in the
Bonanza. My buddy parked his Barron. He says it just not fun knowing
how much it costing to fly.

Strangely, this weekend our ramp was FULL of light twins. Haven't
seen any of those things flying since gas hit $4.50/gallon,

hard to see anything with your head up your ass, I suppose.

but I
guess the holiday weekend brought 'em out of mothballs. Most of the
twins at our airport haven't moved since last fall.

We paid over $300 to top the tanks in Atlas (our Cherokee Pathfinder)
in March (in St. Louis) -- and it really made us stop and think.
That's mostly what made us start looking for a smaller "fun" plane --
which we just bought yesterday (with two other partners). It's a '48
Ercoupe, and it'll sip mogas at about 4.8 gph, with my arm hanging out
the open top...

:-)

Where there's a will, there's a way.


What'd you pay your mexican slaves?



Bertie

Jay Honeck explained :
This fuel may be kill GA. It costing 300 plus now to put gas in the
Bonanza. My buddy parked his Barron. He says it just not fun knowing how
much it costing to fly.

Strangely, this weekend our ramp was FULL of light twins. Haven't seen any
of those things flying since gas hit $4.50/gallon, but I guess the holiday
weekend brought 'em out of mothballs. Most of the twins at our airport
haven't moved since last fall.

We paid over $300 to top the tanks in Atlas (our Cherokee Pathfinder) in
March (in St. Louis) -- and it really made us stop and think. That's mostly
what made us start looking for a smaller "fun" plane -- which we just bought
yesterday (with two other partners). It's a '48 Ercoupe, and it'll sip
mogas at about 4.8 gph,

Huh?

Of all people, I would have thought you would grasp this concept of
reduced gas/oil usage and its reasons and consequences.

1) People react and don't think through the entire costs of aircraft
use and ownership
2) Gas is a percentage but not a staggering pecentage of aircraft usage
3) When people react somewhat mindlessly (ahem, what did that fillup
cost you before, $250?), they pull back on usages.
4) Your twin-engine planes were out for fun, this is the first pull
back phase.
5) Many people are slightly to waaaaaay in over their haeads with plane
ownership to begin, the increase in much of anything shoots them into
loan default, minimized usage or quitting all together.

How many people do you know that will drive 1, 2, 10 extra miles to
"save" 10 cents a gallon?

Gezellig wrote in :

Jay Honeck explained :
This fuel may be kill GA. It costing 300 plus now to put gas in the
Bonanza. My buddy parked his Barron. He says it just not fun knowing
how much it costing to fly.

Strangely, this weekend our ramp was FULL of light twins. Haven't
seen any of those things flying since gas hit $4.50/gallon, but I
guess the holiday weekend brought 'em out of mothballs. Most of the
twins at our airport haven't moved since last fall.

We paid over $300 to top the tanks in Atlas (our Cherokee Pathfinder)
in March (in St. Louis) -- and it really made us stop and think.
That's mostly what made us start looking for a smaller "fun" plane --
which we just bought yesterday (with two other partners). It's a
'48 Ercoupe, and it'll sip mogas at about 4.8 gph,

Huh?

Of all people, I would have thought you would grasp this concept of
reduced gas/oil usage and its reasons and consequences.



Why would you think that? He thinks global warming is going to give him
milder winters, for chrissake.


Bertie

3) When people react somewhat mindlessly (ahem, what did that fillup cost
you before, $250?), they pull back on usages.

A year ago, I paid something around $160 to fill up. Now it's $300. That's
a huge change.

Anyone on the razor's edge of affording to fly is NOT going to be able to
absorb that magnitude of an increase. Which is why flying is way, way
down.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

"Jay Honeck" wrote in
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3) When people react somewhat mindlessly (ahem, what did that fillup
cost you before, $250?), they pull back on usages.

A year ago, I paid something around $160 to fill up. Now it's $300.
That's a huge change.

Anyone on the razor's edge of affording to fly is NOT going to be able
to absorb that magnitude of an increase. Which is why flying is way,
way down.


Nope.


Bertie

On Thu, 29 May 2008 04:53:44 GMT, Jay Honeck wrote:

3) When people react somewhat mindlessly (ahem, what did that fillup cost
you before, $250?), they pull back on usages.

A year ago, I paid something around $160 to fill up. Now it's $300. That's
a huge change.

Well, you snipped most of the important part of my post.

Unanticipated gas increases?

What I don't get, and I see this all the time, is ownership costs viewed
in extremely unrealistic terms. As if everything was fixed on a per unit
basis (gas) or per item basis. No contingencies for unexpected expenses
or monthly escrows for that inevitable annual or rebuild or new reg that
will force new instrumentation.

Anyone on the razor's edge of affording to fly is NOT going to be able to
absorb that magnitude of an increase. Which is why flying is way, way
down.

If you are on the razor's edge, either decrease your expectations
*significantly* or stay on the ground. You will end up their anyway as
that razor's edge, I will guarantee, will slice you when you figured it
(inevitably) wrong.