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Old June 29th 08, 08:05 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mike[_22_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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muff528 writes:

I doubt it would be uncomfortably hot at 3-4000 feet if it's 43° C on the
ground. Maybe you're flying too close to the ground.


The difference would only be a few degrees at 4000 feet, and that's not
enough
when the temperature at the surface is 43° C. Additionally, the
temperature
inside the aircraft would be higher at all times.


I was flying just yesterday and the temp was around 38° C nominal and easily
3-4° C hotter on the ramp. Once you get the big fan blowing in the front
and open the windows, it's certainly tolerable. We were flying locally at
about 4000 MSL and with the photo window open providing extra ventilation,
it was quite nice.

Right now at KTUS it's about 38° C on the ground, 25° C @ 6000 MSL, 17° C @
9000 MSL.

Even normally aspirated piston aircraft can generally get to 9000 MSL even
on hot days. Turbocharged aircraft can generally get to at least twice
that. Even above TUS today during the hottest part of the day if you're
above 12000 MSL you're probably going to be running the heater.

And yes, even on a 43° C it's a helluva lot more fun flying a real aircraft
than flying a computer in a climate controlled room.

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Old June 29th 08, 08:38 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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"Mike" wrote in news:i2R9k.122$K%2.0@trnddc02:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
muff528 writes:

I doubt it would be uncomfortably hot at 3-4000 feet if it's 43° C
on the ground. Maybe you're flying too close to the ground.


The difference would only be a few degrees at 4000 feet, and that's
not enough
when the temperature at the surface is 43° C. Additionally, the
temperature
inside the aircraft would be higher at all times.


I was flying just yesterday and the temp was around 38° C nominal and
easily 3-4° C hotter on the ramp. Once you get the big fan blowing in
the front and open the windows, it's certainly tolerable. We were
flying locally at about 4000 MSL and with the photo window open
providing extra ventilation, it was quite nice.

Right now at KTUS it's about 38° C on the ground, 25° C @ 6000 MSL,
17° C @ 9000 MSL.

Even normally aspirated piston aircraft can generally get to 9000 MSL
even on hot days. Turbocharged aircraft can generally get to at least
twice that. Even above TUS today during the hottest part of the day
if you're above 12000 MSL you're probably going to be running the
heater.

And yes, even on a 43° C it's a helluva lot more fun flying a real
aircraft than flying a computer in a climate controlled room.



Climate controlled? He lives by begging. You really think he has AC?


Bertie
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Old June 29th 08, 09:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mike[_22_]
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in news:i2R9k.122$K%2.0@trnddc02:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
muff528 writes:

I doubt it would be uncomfortably hot at 3-4000 feet if it's 43° C
on the ground. Maybe you're flying too close to the ground.

The difference would only be a few degrees at 4000 feet, and that's
not enough
when the temperature at the surface is 43° C. Additionally, the
temperature
inside the aircraft would be higher at all times.


I was flying just yesterday and the temp was around 38° C nominal and
easily 3-4° C hotter on the ramp. Once you get the big fan blowing in
the front and open the windows, it's certainly tolerable. We were
flying locally at about 4000 MSL and with the photo window open
providing extra ventilation, it was quite nice.

Right now at KTUS it's about 38° C on the ground, 25° C @ 6000 MSL,
17° C @ 9000 MSL.

Even normally aspirated piston aircraft can generally get to 9000 MSL
even on hot days. Turbocharged aircraft can generally get to at least
twice that. Even above TUS today during the hottest part of the day
if you're above 12000 MSL you're probably going to be running the
heater.

And yes, even on a 43° C it's a helluva lot more fun flying a real
aircraft than flying a computer in a climate controlled room.



Climate controlled? He lives by begging. You really think he has AC?


There's always the library.

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Old June 29th 08, 09:11 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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"Mike" wrote in news:_TR9k.69$al3.23@trnddc06:

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Mike" wrote in news:i2R9k.122$K%2.0@trnddc02:

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
...
muff528 writes:

I doubt it would be uncomfortably hot at 3-4000 feet if it's 43° C
on the ground. Maybe you're flying too close to the ground.

The difference would only be a few degrees at 4000 feet, and that's
not enough
when the temperature at the surface is 43° C. Additionally, the
temperature
inside the aircraft would be higher at all times.

I was flying just yesterday and the temp was around 38° C nominal

and
easily 3-4° C hotter on the ramp. Once you get the big fan blowing

in
the front and open the windows, it's certainly tolerable. We were
flying locally at about 4000 MSL and with the photo window open
providing extra ventilation, it was quite nice.

Right now at KTUS it's about 38° C on the ground, 25° C @ 6000 MSL,
17° C @ 9000 MSL.

Even normally aspirated piston aircraft can generally get to 9000

MSL
even on hot days. Turbocharged aircraft can generally get to at

least
twice that. Even above TUS today during the hottest part of the day
if you're above 12000 MSL you're probably going to be running the
heater.

And yes, even on a 43° C it's a helluva lot more fun flying a real
aircraft than flying a computer in a climate controlled room.



Climate controlled? He lives by begging. You really think he has AC?


There's always the library.


He prolly gets tossed in the Seine fairly regularly for correcting the
local's french..



Bertie



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Old June 29th 08, 09:36 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Mike writes:

Even normally aspirated piston aircraft can generally get to 9000 MSL even
on hot days.


True, but then you have to start thinking about oxygen.

And yes, even on a 43° C it's a helluva lot more fun flying a real aircraft
than flying a computer in a climate controlled room.


That is a matter of opinion. Nothing is fun at 43° C.
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Old June 29th 08, 09:44 PM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_25_]
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Mxsmanic wrote in
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Mike writes:

Even normally aspirated piston aircraft can generally get to 9000 MSL
even on hot days.


True, but then you have to start thinking about oxygen.

And yes, even on a 43° C it's a helluva lot more fun flying a real
aircraft than flying a computer in a climate controlled room.


That is a matter of opinion. Nothing is fun at 43° C.


Nothing is fun in your life, period.



Bertie
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Old June 30th 08, 01:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mike[_22_]
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"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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Mike writes:

Even normally aspirated piston aircraft can generally get to 9000 MSL
even
on hot days.


True, but then you have to start thinking about oxygen.


I have a Skyox 4-place system, so that's not a problem, but you certainly
don't need O2 at 9000'.

And yes, even on a 43° C it's a helluva lot more fun flying a real
aircraft
than flying a computer in a climate controlled room.


That is a matter of opinion. Nothing is fun at 43° C.


Of course. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Some are just more
relevant than others.

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Old June 30th 08, 02:06 AM posted to rec.aviation.student,rec.aviation.piloting
Mxsmanic
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Mike writes:

I have a Skyox 4-place system, so that's not a problem, but you certainly
don't need O2 at 9000'.


It doesn't hurt, and it's a good idea at night.
 




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