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Old December 13th 03, 02:37 AM
Eastward Bound
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Just out of curiosity.

Could somebody like me -

An American - No Criminal History - Single male - 19 years of age

.........Join the English Royal Air Force? Would that make me a British Citizen?


~Thanks in Advance!
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Old December 13th 03, 03:18 AM
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Eastward Bound wrote:
Just out of curiosity.

Could somebody like me -

An American - No Criminal History - Single male - 19 years of age

........Join the English Royal Air Force? Would that make me a
British Citizen?


No.

http://www.rafcareers.com/thebigpicture/eligibility.cfm

"2. To join the Royal Air Force you must at all times since birth have been
a citizen of the UK, the Commonwealth or the Republic of Ireland. "

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Old December 13th 03, 04:03 AM
Ed Majden
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"Thomas Schoene"
No.

http://www.rafcareers.com/thebigpicture/eligibility.cfm

"2. To join the Royal Air Force you must at all times since birth have

been
a citizen of the UK, the Commonwealth or the Republic of Ireland. "

When did this change take place? During WWII I'm sure some Yanks must
have enlisted in the RAF before the U.S. entered the war. 303 RAF Squadron
was manned by Poles. A lot of Americans came up to Canada and joined the
RCAF. The reverse was true during the Vietnam war. Many Canadians enlisted
in the U.S. forces.


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Old December 13th 03, 01:27 PM
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I suspect it was a "In Time of War"-thing.
the Americans that came over were all recruited in Canada (I just read about
it in Harold Buell's Dauntless Helldivers), and it was all a somewhat shady
deal legally, from what I gather.

RAF was *really* short of pilots then, and not too picky regarding
citizenship.

/Morten

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"Thomas Schoene"
No.

http://www.rafcareers.com/thebigpicture/eligibility.cfm

"2. To join the Royal Air Force you must at all times since birth have

been
a citizen of the UK, the Commonwealth or the Republic of Ireland. "

When did this change take place? During WWII I'm sure some Yanks must
have enlisted in the RAF before the U.S. entered the war. 303 RAF

Squadron
was manned by Poles. A lot of Americans came up to Canada and joined the
RCAF. The reverse was true during the Vietnam war. Many Canadians

enlisted
in the U.S. forces.




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Old December 13th 03, 04:24 PM
Ed Majden
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"Ed Majden"
When did this change take place? During WWII I'm sure some Yanks must
have enlisted in the RAF before the U.S. entered the war. 303 RAF

Squadron
was manned by Poles. A lot of Americans came up to Canada and joined the
RCAF. The reverse was true during the Vietnam war. Many Canadians

enlisted
in the U.S. forces.

When the Arrow was cancelled moral was low in the RCAF. I phoned a USAF
recruiter in Detroit to enquire about the USAF. I was told I would have to
come down to the USA if I was interested. I asked if my service in the RCAF
would be given recognition. The recruiter stated that it wouldn't but
previous training would probably help after adjusting to USAF methods. I
did not take him up on the offer but stayed with the RCAF/CAF until
retirement.


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Old December 13th 03, 03:40 PM
Peter Kemp
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On or about Sat, 13 Dec 2003 03:18:24 GMT, "Thomas Schoene"
allegedly uttered:

Eastward Bound wrote:
Just out of curiosity.

Could somebody like me -

An American - No Criminal History - Single male - 19 years of age

........Join the English Royal Air Force? Would that make me a
British Citizen?


No.

http://www.rafcareers.com/thebigpicture/eligibility.cfm

"2. To join the Royal Air Force you must at all times since birth have been
a citizen of the UK, the Commonwealth or the Republic of Ireland. "


FWIW they also take half-breeds.
I was dual nationality (my Mum's Danish), and they said as long I
renounced my Danish nationality I could serve. As it happens I had to
renounce it to avoid national service in a country where I didn't
speak the language, but my job seeking took me elsewhere.
---
Peter Kemp

Life is short - Drink Faster
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Old December 13th 03, 05:57 PM
JDupre5762
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"2. To join the Royal Air Force you must at all times since birth have been
a citizen of the UK, the Commonwealth or the Republic of Ireland. "


Does that mean no naturalized British citizen can join the RAF?

In the US it is possible for foriegners to join the military services and
that speeds up the process of becoming a naturalized citizen.

John Dupre'

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Old December 13th 03, 06:45 PM
Ron
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n the US it is possible for foriegners to join the military services and
that speeds up the process of becoming a naturalized citizen.

John Dupre'


Yes foreigners can join, but they can not recieve a commission until they are
US citiizens.

I think military service will speed up the time for citizenship.


Ron
Pilot/Wildland Firefighter

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Old December 14th 03, 11:50 AM
Thomas Schoene
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JDupre5762 wrote:
"2. To join the Royal Air Force you must at all times since birth
have been a citizen of the UK, the Commonwealth or the Republic of
Ireland. "


Does that mean no naturalized British citizen can join the RAF?


Apparently, yes. The wording seems fairly specifically meant to convey
this.

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Old December 13th 03, 06:08 PM
Tom Nealon
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"Thomas Schoene" wrote in message link.net...
Eastward Bound wrote:
Just out of curiosity.

Could somebody like me -

An American - No Criminal History - Single male - 19 years of age

........Join the English Royal Air Force? Would that make me a
British Citizen?


No.

http://www.rafcareers.com/thebigpicture/eligibility.cfm

"2. To join the Royal Air Force you must at all times since birth have been
a citizen of the UK, the Commonwealth or the Republic of Ireland. "


There might be a little bit of a problem if you were born in the
commonwealth but you place of birth is no longer a member. For example
my girlfriend it Hong Kong Chinese has a UK passport and wasn't
allowed to join her university's RAF Student Officer Corps. Reason
given HK not in the Commonwealth (Maybe its because HK was not a CW
member just a territory of the UK not sure...) This stance will
exclude a lot of White Zimbabweans now but perhaps they would be
allowed being white and all...

Tom
 




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