Fun toy to have

Neil Gould wrote:
Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:
John Smith wrote:
Remote-Controlled Helicopter Toys Recalled by Innovage Due to Fire
and Burn Hazards

In cooperation with the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission
(CPSC), Innovage LLC, of Foothill Ranch, Calif., is voluntarily
recalling about 685,000 "Sky Scrambler" and "The Sharper Image"
Wireless Indoor Helicopters. The rechargeable lithium ion battery
inside the helicopters can overheat, catch fire, and ignite nearby
combustibles, posing fire and burn hazards to consumers.

Face it. The Chinese are attacking us. They are just being very clever
about it.

They sure are. Rather than correct our bogus design specifications to
something less dangerous, they deliver exactly what we order and let us hang
ourselves. Talk about good use of resources!






Do you think for a second that Innovage LLC
(http://www.macraesbluebook.com/searc...company=646435)
designed anything other than the packaging and a horrible website
(follow the link above)? The called a manufacturer or they called them
and said, "We have made a cheap toy helicopter. Would you like to sell
it you running dog cap^H^H^H^H^H fine American Marketing company."

On the larger picture do you think Mattel or any other toy company told
them to use lead based paint. I've never seen that even suggested.

They are doing exactly what Japan used to do and what we did 30 or 40
years ago. Cut corners to save money.

They are doing exactly what Japan used to do and what we did 30 or 40
years ago. Cut corners to save money.

Um, well, yes. That's how the system is supposed to work. Money flows
toward the lowest cost of production because that's what we (consumers)
demand.

However, if a factory produces shoddy products, no one buys their junk and
they go out of business. It's a system always seeking balance, and (best of
all) it finds this balance automatically, without human oversight.

It only gets really screwed up when gummint ("for the sake of the children",
always) gets involved.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
They are doing exactly what Japan used to do and what we did 30 or 40
years ago. Cut corners to save money.

Um, well, yes. That's how the system is supposed to work. Money flows
toward the lowest cost of production because that's what we (consumers)
demand.

However, if a factory produces shoddy products, no one buys their junk
and they go out of business. It's a system always seeking balance, and
(best of all) it finds this balance automatically, without human oversight.

It only gets really screwed up when gummint ("for the sake of the
children", always) gets involved.

I understand that you are a free market guy and so am I. But there are
certain things that it is just more efficient for we as consumers to
outsource to either the government or some other centralized source.

Am I expected to have a lab at home to check for toxic chemicals on my
kids toys?

The model of Underwriters Laboratories works quite well or at least used
to when anyone paid attention to it.

Am I expected to have a lab at home to check for toxic chemicals on my
kids toys?

The model of Underwriters Laboratories works quite well or at least used
to when anyone paid attention to it.

Correct. And, now that the problem has caused the loss of millions of
dollars in sales, the shoddy factories have been fixed, and the problem
rectified. They system worked.

Serious question: I never heard of any kids being hurt in this lead-paint
situation -- did you?
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:
Am I expected to have a lab at home to check for toxic chemicals on my
kids toys?

The model of Underwriters Laboratories works quite well or at least
used to when anyone paid attention to it.

Correct. And, now that the problem has caused the loss of millions of
dollars in sales, the shoddy factories have been fixed, and the problem
rectified. They system worked.

Don't forget China also put some guy to death for it to. But the system
isn't fixed and never can be as long as the country we are buying from
isn't working under the same set of rules.


Serious question: I never heard of any kids being hurt in this
lead-paint situation -- did you?

No, but Lead poisoning doesn't show up right away.

"Gig 601Xl Builder" wrote, "... Lead poisoning doesn't show up right away."

I wondered for years if all the solder fumes I inhaled in my youth ...

Ah, what were we talking about?

In article _pWqk.251261$TT4.150351@attbi_s22,
"Jay Honeck" wrote:

Serious question: I never heard of any kids being hurt in this lead-paint
situation -- did you?

An interesting read is the consumer products safety commission website.
There are a number of recalls listed due to lead paint.

http://cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prerel.html

Jay Honeck wrote:
I never heard of any kids being hurt in this
lead-paint situation -- did you?

http://www.idph.state.il.us/public/p....06GovLead.htm

"Across the country approximately 310,000 children younger than
six-years-old are poisoned by lead each year..."


http://www.idph.state.il.us/public/p....06GovLead.htm

Last year's record low, according to New York State Health Department,
was only 1,970 kids poisoned by lead.


http://www.oregonlive.com/business/o...120.xml&coll=7

Boy who swallowed metal trinket from a gumball machine still has
elevated levels of lead in his body and some short-term memory loss.


http://wcco.com/local/lead.testing.mall.2.362515.html

"4-year-old Jarnell Graham died when he swallowed a little charm from an
inexpensive bracelet..."

I never heard of any kids being hurt in this
lead-paint situation -- did you?

A bunch of unrelated stuff snipped

I find nothing relevant here, Stella, unless you'd like to discuss some
unrelated lead-paint-scare press releases from (among others) the most
corrupt politician in Illinois history, with the possible exception of King
Daley?

Let's start again: I was asking about the specific example of the recalled
Chinese toys that were painted with lead paint. Did anyone hear anything
about anyone being injured by this event? I can find nothing about any
injuries in the media.
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
Ercoupe N94856
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"

Jay Honeck wrote:

Let's start again: I was asking about the specific example of the
recalled Chinese toys that were painted with lead paint. Did anyone
hear anything about anyone being injured by this event?

Luckily, no. So, luckily, the governement acted timely. However, there
have been intoxinations caused by long time exposure to lead in the
past. The best known example is probably the antique Rome. No need to
repeat every mistake.

For more information about the toxity of lead:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lead#Health_effects