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Old September 21st 08, 12:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in uniform,
two Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a
local disaster drill.

Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he had a
first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are you,
good day, or something similar. He certainly would have been welcome
to stand with us, share ideas, and come up with some ways we could
work with CAP and the military to enhance our disaster preparedness.



They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP personell
are as
crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified to
be a security gaurd in a mall.


This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed bag.
Many members were in the real air force and many have retired from the
same. I know several CAP colonels who were real colonels in the real
USAF. There's also a lot of members who just like to fly and have fun
and could care less about the pretend military gig. The pretend air
force aspect of CAP is mostly for the cadets. Paying $70 per year in
dues does not make one an officer, although there are many who seem to
think it does. For senior members, there's also the option of wearing
CAP distinctive uniforms which display no rank insignia. That's the
option preferred by those who don't really want to pretend they are in
the military.



Yeah, true enough, there are a lot of good guys in the CAP, They are in
a minority, though. I can't see how they can stand it.


It all depends on the squadron you're in. Some are more into the flying
aspect and less into the pretend military aspect. Those tend to be the more
capable squadrons for air ops because they are less tolerant of pilots who
can't fly their thumb up their arse. At least in my observations. There's
lots of CAP pilots who don't ever fly unless it's on the CAP dime. As such
they may go 3-4 months without flying at all. Those types of guys aren't
well tolerated in squadrons that are more serious about the flying aspect.

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Old September 21st 08, 12:26 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_24_]
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"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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"Viperdoc" wrote in
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The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in uniform,
two Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a
local disaster drill.

Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he had
a first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are
you, good day, or something similar. He certainly would have been
welcome to stand with us, share ideas, and come up with some ways
we could work with CAP and the military to enhance our disaster
preparedness.



They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP
personell are as
crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified
to be a security gaurd in a mall.

This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed bag.
Many members were in the real air force and many have retired from
the same. I know several CAP colonels who were real colonels in the
real USAF. There's also a lot of members who just like to fly and
have fun and could care less about the pretend military gig. The
pretend air force aspect of CAP is mostly for the cadets. Paying
$70 per year in dues does not make one an officer, although there
are many who seem to think it does. For senior members, there's
also the option of wearing CAP distinctive uniforms which display no
rank insignia. That's the option preferred by those who don't
really want to pretend they are in the military.



Yeah, true enough, there are a lot of good guys in the CAP, They are
in a minority, though. I can't see how they can stand it.


It all depends on the squadron you're in. Some are more into the
flying aspect and less into the pretend military aspect. Those tend
to be the more capable squadrons for air ops because they are less
tolerant of pilots who can't fly their thumb up their arse. At least
in my observations. There's lots of CAP pilots who don't ever fly
unless it's on the CAP dime. As such they may go 3-4 months without
flying at all. Those types of guys aren't well tolerated in squadrons
that are more serious about the flying aspect.



Whatever turns them on. Not worth my time to even think about them,
mostly.

bertie

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Old September 21st 08, 01:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Viperdoc[_3_]
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The concept of introducing kids to aviation is great, and except for perhaps
the Wings program, is one of the few routes out there. However, the whole
idea of seeing overweight yahoos yelling at a bunch of kids and making them
march around somehow doesn't fit. I've also seen them come into airport
restaurants with their too tight flight suits and swagger around like a
bunch of fighter jocks even though they flew in with a 172.

Yet, the goals are great, and their mission is important. It may be worth
another effort to get them working together again.



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Old September 22nd 08, 04:43 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mick[_2_]
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
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|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
| :
|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| "Viperdoc" wrote in
| :
|
| The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
| variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in uniform,
| two Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a
| local disaster drill.
|
| Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he had
| a first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are
| you, good day, or something similar. He certainly would have been
| welcome to stand with us, share ideas, and come up with some ways
| we could work with CAP and the military to enhance our disaster
| preparedness.
|
|
|
| They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP
| personell are as
| crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified
| to be a security gaurd in a mall.
|
| This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed bag.
| Many members were in the real air force and many have retired from
| the same. I know several CAP colonels who were real colonels in the
| real USAF. There's also a lot of members who just like to fly and
| have fun and could care less about the pretend military gig. The
| pretend air force aspect of CAP is mostly for the cadets. Paying
| $70 per year in dues does not make one an officer, although there
| are many who seem to think it does. For senior members, there's
| also the option of wearing CAP distinctive uniforms which display no
| rank insignia. That's the option preferred by those who don't
| really want to pretend they are in the military.
|
|
|
| Yeah, true enough, there are a lot of good guys in the CAP, They are
| in a minority, though. I can't see how they can stand it.
|
| It all depends on the squadron you're in. Some are more into the
| flying aspect and less into the pretend military aspect. Those tend
| to be the more capable squadrons for air ops because they are less
| tolerant of pilots who can't fly their thumb up their arse. At least
| in my observations. There's lots of CAP pilots who don't ever fly
| unless it's on the CAP dime. As such they may go 3-4 months without
| flying at all. Those types of guys aren't well tolerated in squadrons
| that are more serious about the flying aspect.
|
|
| Whatever turns them on. Not worth my time to even think about them,
| mostly.
|
| bertie
|

I seriously doubt they give a **** what you think. Most intelligent people
don't.


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Old September 22nd 08, 12:20 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike
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"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in message
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"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
| :
|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
| :
|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| "Viperdoc" wrote in
| :
|
| The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
| variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in uniform,
| two Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a
| local disaster drill.
|
| Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he had
| a first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are
| you, good day, or something similar. He certainly would have been
| welcome to stand with us, share ideas, and come up with some ways
| we could work with CAP and the military to enhance our disaster
| preparedness.
|
|
|
| They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP
| personell are as
| crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified
| to be a security gaurd in a mall.
|
| This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed bag.
| Many members were in the real air force and many have retired from
| the same. I know several CAP colonels who were real colonels in the
| real USAF. There's also a lot of members who just like to fly and
| have fun and could care less about the pretend military gig. The
| pretend air force aspect of CAP is mostly for the cadets. Paying
| $70 per year in dues does not make one an officer, although there
| are many who seem to think it does. For senior members, there's
| also the option of wearing CAP distinctive uniforms which display no
| rank insignia. That's the option preferred by those who don't
| really want to pretend they are in the military.
|
|
|
| Yeah, true enough, there are a lot of good guys in the CAP, They are
| in a minority, though. I can't see how they can stand it.
|
| It all depends on the squadron you're in. Some are more into the
| flying aspect and less into the pretend military aspect. Those tend
| to be the more capable squadrons for air ops because they are less
| tolerant of pilots who can't fly their thumb up their arse. At least
| in my observations. There's lots of CAP pilots who don't ever fly
| unless it's on the CAP dime. As such they may go 3-4 months without
| flying at all. Those types of guys aren't well tolerated in squadrons
| that are more serious about the flying aspect.
|
|
| Whatever turns them on. Not worth my time to even think about them,
| mostly.
|
| bertie
|

I seriously doubt they give a **** what you think. Most intelligent people
don't.


That explains why you reply to each of his posts.

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Old September 22nd 08, 09:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mick[_2_]
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"Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in message
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| "Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in message
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|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| | "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
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| |
| | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| | ...
| | "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
| | :
| |
| | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| | ...
| | "Viperdoc" wrote in
| | :
| |
| | The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
| | variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in
uniform,
| | two Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of BDU's at a
| | local disaster drill.
| |
| | Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he
had
| | a first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how are
| | you, good day, or something similar. He certainly would have
been
| | welcome to stand with us, share ideas, and come up with some
ways
| | we could work with CAP and the military to enhance our disaster
| | preparedness.
| |
| |
| |
| | They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP
| | personell are as
| | crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not qualified
| | to be a security gaurd in a mall.
| |
| | This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed
bag.
| | Many members were in the real air force and many have retired from
| | the same. I know several CAP colonels who were real colonels in
the
| | real USAF. There's also a lot of members who just like to fly and
| | have fun and could care less about the pretend military gig. The
| | pretend air force aspect of CAP is mostly for the cadets. Paying
| | $70 per year in dues does not make one an officer, although there
| | are many who seem to think it does. For senior members, there's
| | also the option of wearing CAP distinctive uniforms which display
no
| | rank insignia. That's the option preferred by those who don't
| | really want to pretend they are in the military.
| |
| |
| |
| | Yeah, true enough, there are a lot of good guys in the CAP, They
are
| | in a minority, though. I can't see how they can stand it.
| |
| | It all depends on the squadron you're in. Some are more into the
| | flying aspect and less into the pretend military aspect. Those tend
| | to be the more capable squadrons for air ops because they are less
| | tolerant of pilots who can't fly their thumb up their arse. At
least
| | in my observations. There's lots of CAP pilots who don't ever fly
| | unless it's on the CAP dime. As such they may go 3-4 months without
| | flying at all. Those types of guys aren't well tolerated in
squadrons
| | that are more serious about the flying aspect.
| |
| |
| | Whatever turns them on. Not worth my time to even think about them,
| | mostly.
| |
| | bertie
| |
|
| I seriously doubt they give a **** what you think. Most intelligent
people
| don't.
|
| That explains why you reply to each of his posts.
|


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Old September 22nd 08, 08:40 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bertie the Bunyip[_28_]
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"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
...
| "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
| :
|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| "Mike" nospam@ microsoft.com wrote in
| :
|
| "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| ...
| "Viperdoc" wrote in
| :
|
| The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
| variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in
| uniform, two Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of
| BDU's at a local disaster drill.
|
| Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he
| had a first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how
| are you, good day, or something similar. He certainly would
| have been welcome to stand with us, share ideas, and come up
| with some ways we could work with CAP and the military to
| enhance our disaster preparedness.
|
|
|
| They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP
| personell are as
| crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not
| qualified to be a security gaurd in a mall.
|
| This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed
| bag. Many members were in the real air force and many have
| retired from the same. I know several CAP colonels who were real
| colonels in the real USAF. There's also a lot of members who
| just like to fly and have fun and could care less about the
| pretend military gig. The pretend air force aspect of CAP is
| mostly for the cadets. Paying $70 per year in dues does not make
| one an officer, although there are many who seem to think it
| does. For senior members, there's also the option of wearing CAP
| distinctive uniforms which display no rank insignia. That's the
| option preferred by those who don't really want to pretend they
| are in the military.
|
|
|
| Yeah, true enough, there are a lot of good guys in the CAP, They
| are in a minority, though. I can't see how they can stand it.
|
| It all depends on the squadron you're in. Some are more into the
| flying aspect and less into the pretend military aspect. Those
| tend to be the more capable squadrons for air ops because they are
| less tolerant of pilots who can't fly their thumb up their arse.
| At least in my observations. There's lots of CAP pilots who don't
| ever fly unless it's on the CAP dime. As such they may go 3-4
| months without flying at all. Those types of guys aren't well
| tolerated in squadrons that are more serious about the flying
| aspect.
|
|
| Whatever turns them on. Not worth my time to even think about them,
| mostly.
|
| bertie
|

I seriously doubt they give a **** what you think. Most intelligent
people don't.



I don;'t care.


And you obviously are obvlivious to everything outside of your own world
view, which pretty much just consists of your illoeceal valve.


Bertie


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Old September 22nd 08, 09:52 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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| |
| | "Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
| | ...
| | "Viperdoc" wrote in
| | :
| |
| | The response of a lot of CAP members in this regard seems to be
| | variable. Just two days ago, there were three officers in
| | uniform, two Air Force and one Army, and a guy in a CAP set of
| | BDU's at a local disaster drill.
| |
| | Standard protocol would have been for him to come up to us (he
| | had a first lieutenant bar on his uniform), salute, and say how
| | are you, good day, or something similar. He certainly would
| | have been welcome to stand with us, share ideas, and come up
| | with some ways we could work with CAP and the military to
| | enhance our disaster preparedness.
| |
| |
| |
| | They're supposed to, but in fact a large percentage of CAP
| | personell are as
| | crazy as bedbugs and are only there because they're not
| | qualified to be a security gaurd in a mall.
| |
| | This is true to a large degree. However, there's also a mixed
| | bag. Many members were in the real air force and many have
| | retired from the same. I know several CAP colonels who were real
| | colonels in the real USAF. There's also a lot of members who
| | just like to fly and have fun and could care less about the
| | pretend military gig. The pretend air force aspect of CAP is
| | mostly for the cadets. Paying $70 per year in dues does not make
| | one an officer, although there are many who seem to think it
| | does. For senior members, there's also the option of wearing CAP
| | distinctive uniforms which display no rank insignia. That's the
| | option preferred by those who don't really want to pretend they
| | are in the military.
| |
| |
| |
| | Yeah, true enough, there are a lot of good guys in the CAP, They
| | are in a minority, though. I can't see how they can stand it.
| |
| | It all depends on the squadron you're in. Some are more into the
| | flying aspect and less into the pretend military aspect. Those
| | tend to be the more capable squadrons for air ops because they are
| | less tolerant of pilots who can't fly their thumb up their arse.
| | At least in my observations. There's lots of CAP pilots who don't
| | ever fly unless it's on the CAP dime. As such they may go 3-4
| | months without flying at all. Those types of guys aren't well
| | tolerated in squadrons that are more serious about the flying
| | aspect.
| |
| |
| | Whatever turns them on. Not worth my time to even think about them,
| | mostly.
| |
| | bertie
| |
|
| I seriously doubt they give a **** what you think. Most intelligent
| people don't.
|
|
|
| I don;'t care.
|
|
| And you obviously are obvlivious to everything outside of your own world
| view, which pretty much just consists of your illoeceal valve.
|
|
| Bertie
|
|

Exactly the problem. You don't care about anything, or anyone, except
yourself.

That's one of your many illnesses.


 




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