Crab, slips, and crossed controls

On Sep 22, 5:29*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
george wrote in news:7f5d8c7e-2345-427c-bec6-
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On Sep 23, 8:17 am, John Godwin wrote:

That's incredible. *When I took my CFI Ride, I had to demonstrate a
maximum effort forward slip on final. *Kicked out when I was over the
fence and hit the numbers. *Seems as if your instructor didn't know the
difference between a slip and a skid.

A number of aircraft that I've flown do not have flaps and the
sideslip was an everyday common maneuver .
I found the practice was frowned upon in the modern aircraft as there
were claims that the elevators were shielded and all manner of
problems could develop

Some early big flap cessnas got a little wobbly, but that's all. The Bird
dog gets very funky when slipped with full flaps ~( 60 deg) but mostly it's
just another skill falling into decline because it's "too hard"

Bertie

I'm a student with 70 hrs and my CFI teaches slips to bleed off
altitude, especially for engine failure practice. The only restriction
is not to use full flaps in a 172SP. Apparently it causes too much
vibration.

" wrote in
:

On Sep 22, 5:29*pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
george wrote in news:7f5d8c7e-2345-427c-bec6-
:

On Sep 23, 8:17 am, John Godwin wrote:

That's incredible. *When I took my CFI Ride, I had to demonstrate
a maximum effort forward slip on final. *Kicked out when I was
over th
e
fence and hit the numbers. *Seems as if your instructor didn't
know
the
difference between a slip and a skid.

A number of aircraft that I've flown do not have flaps and the
sideslip was an everyday common maneuver .
I found the practice was frowned upon in the modern aircraft as
there were claims that the elevators were shielded and all manner
of problems could develop

Some early big flap cessnas got a little wobbly, but that's all. The
Bird dog gets very funky when slipped with full flaps ~( 60 deg) but
mostly it
's
just another skill falling into decline because it's "too hard"

Bertie

I'm a student with 70 hrs and my CFI teaches slips to bleed off
altitude, especially for engine failure practice. The only restriction
is not to use full flaps in a 172SP. Apparently it causes too much
vibration.


You're one of the fortunate ones!


Bertie

"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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| " wrote in
| :
|
| On Sep 22, 5:29 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| george wrote in news:7f5d8c7e-2345-427c-bec6-
| :
|
| On Sep 23, 8:17 am, John Godwin wrote:
|
| That's incredible. When I took my CFI Ride, I had to demonstrate
| a maximum effort forward slip on final. Kicked out when I was
| over th
| e
| fence and hit the numbers. Seems as if your instructor didn't
| know
| the
| difference between a slip and a skid.
|
| A number of aircraft that I've flown do not have flaps and the
| sideslip was an everyday common maneuver .
| I found the practice was frowned upon in the modern aircraft as
| there were claims that the elevators were shielded and all manner
| of problems could develop
|
| Some early big flap cessnas got a little wobbly, but that's all. The
| Bird dog gets very funky when slipped with full flaps ~( 60 deg) but
| mostly it
| 's
| just another skill falling into decline because it's "too hard"
|
| Bertie
|
| I'm a student with 70 hrs and my CFI teaches slips to bleed off
| altitude, especially for engine failure practice. The only restriction
| is not to use full flaps in a 172SP. Apparently it causes too much
| vibration.
|
|
| You're one of the fortunate ones!
|
|
| Bertie

Your not, you're a dumb ass.

"Mick" #$$#@%%%.^^^ wrote in :


"Bertie the Bunyip" wrote in message
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|
| On Sep 22, 5:29 pm, Bertie the Bunyip wrote:
| george wrote in news:7f5d8c7e-2345-427c-bec6-
| :
|
| On Sep 23, 8:17 am, John Godwin wrote:
|
| That's incredible. When I took my CFI Ride, I had to
demonstrate
| a maximum effort forward slip on final. Kicked out when I was
| over th
| e
| fence and hit the numbers. Seems as if your instructor didn't
| know
| the
| difference between a slip and a skid.
|
| A number of aircraft that I've flown do not have flaps and the
| sideslip was an everyday common maneuver .
| I found the practice was frowned upon in the modern aircraft as
| there were claims that the elevators were shielded and all
manner
| of problems could develop
|
| Some early big flap cessnas got a little wobbly, but that's all.
The
| Bird dog gets very funky when slipped with full flaps ~( 60 deg)
but
| mostly it
| 's
| just another skill falling into decline because it's "too hard"
|
| Bertie
|
| I'm a student with 70 hrs and my CFI teaches slips to bleed off
| altitude, especially for engine failure practice. The only
restriction
| is not to use full flaps in a 172SP. Apparently it causes too much
| vibration.
|
|
| You're one of the fortunate ones!
|
|
| Bertie

Your not, you're a dumb ass.





Yeh, OK, lamer boi



Bertie

wrote:

The only restriction is not to use full flaps in a 172SP.
Apparently it causes too much vibration.

It is an old argument that stems from a remark in some Cessna POH's way back
when.

Don't sweat it: slip often and be happy. It is one of the most useful
maneuvers in any pilot's bag of tricks. Practice it enough to make it
almost automatic when needed; it will serve you well.


--
Dan
T-182T at 4R4