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I ran into similar issues with PC based laptops. The update program simply
doesn't like certain (if not most) USB-Comm port adapter/computer combinations. Honeywell claimed that you had to use certain USB-Comm port adapters, and I tried the one they recommended with no improvement. The best solution I found was to use an older laptop with a standard comm port which has been working flawlessly through many update cycles. I'm using the latest version of the GPS Database Loader. "Andrew Andersen" wrote in message ... For those interested, here's an update on this issue: Updating the Honeywell KLN 94 GPS from a MacBook Pro is now working with both Parallels 4 and VMWare Fusion with Windows XP using a Keyspan USA-19HS USB-serial adapter. IOGear USB and Prolific adapters have been tried without success. (It is POSSIBLE to establish a connection at 9600 using a Prolific adapter and a serial client utility to map the Windows serial port to an OS X pipe, but that does not seem able to pass the control code needed to increase the baud rate. At 9600 the update will take around 2 hours.) The key to the solution is the updated Windows XP drivers from Keyspan, version 3.7S. These are obtainable from the Keyspan website. The credit should go to Tom B. from KWDR, who first solved the mystery with VMWare Fusion. After he alerted me, I also succeeded with Parallels 4. In case this might be useful to anyone, this was my experience: 1. Installed the Keyspan USA-19HS v3.7S drivers on Windows XP SP3 VM under Parallels v4.0. This is the same driver file as used in Windows 2000. I did not install the OS X drivers, although Tom did in his tests. I used the Honeywell Bendix King GPS Database Loader version 1.7. If you have tried this before with earlier versions of the drivers, you will have noticed that the "internal loop back test" in Keyspan serial assistant, which had previously frequently failed, now works. 2. Connected to KLN 94 and on first attempt, received error "Ready for next diskette or data loader not ready" on KLN 94 after existing database erased. Configuration was: COM 5 (auto assigned), default Windows initial serial port settings, Com Port Adjustment 0. All other settings default. My second attempt produced the same error. For the third attempt, I experimented with values 5 and 10 for Com Port Adjustment in the GPS Database Loader, but noted that these precluded the successful switch from 9600 to 115200 baud, so reverted to a value of 0. At this point, I changed the Mac's OS X System Preferences for Energy Saver, Power Adapter, to "better performance" and manually altered the display and computer sleep parameters to sensible values (20 minutes and 1 hour 20 respectively). Using Device Manager in Win XP VM, the COM 5 port defaults were set to 9600, 8 bits, 1 stop bit, odd parity and no flow control. Set Parallels to always connect the Keyspan USA-19HS device to the VM. My purpose here was to try and eliminate factors that might prevent receipt by GPS Database Loader of the KLN 94's message that the database erase has been completed and the transfer can commence. 3. I then started the Keyspan Serial Assistant and restarted the KLN 94 and Honeywell BK GPS Database Loader program. 4. Whilst running GPS Database Loader, I used Keyspan Serial Assistant monitor to view comms between Mac and KLN 94. Observed nothing untoward there, but noted longish pauses between changing focus windows and moving between tabs in Serial Assistant. Nevertheless, the update completed successfully, although there was no indication on the GPS Database Loader program window of % status until completion. The KLN 94 display incremented progress as expected. 5. Set "transmit completion timing advance" to "Faster" in Keyspan Serial Assistant and then exited that program. 6. Restarted KLN 94 and GPS Database Loader program. Ran the latter again, but this time without Keyspan Serial Assistant, without any problems other than, as previously noted, progress indicator on the GPS Database Loader did not move until the update completed at 100%. The data transfer appeared to progress more quickly than usual, but I did not keep timings. I'm happy enough with the result to continue updating the KLN 94 from the Mac now. I hope this is some help to other KLN 94 owners in this situation. Regards Andrew/. tecsightATbigpondDOTnetDOTau On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:02:43 -0500, John Smith wrote: In article , Michelle wrote: John Smith wrote: In article , Michelle wrote: never got it to work with the same setup. The problem was Parallels USB driver translation. They keep claiming it has been fixed. You can turn it on manually in Parallels. I was listening to either a Security Now podcast that they mentioned how to do it, but I cannot remember which episode it was. Look for the podcasts that discuss virtualization. grc.com/securitynow.htm Oooh another security now listener! Yep, since the beginning. I consider it a free graduate level course in personal computer operation. |
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Mike wrote:
I ran into similar issues with PC based laptops. The update program simply doesn't like certain (if not most) USB-Comm port adapter/computer combinations. Honeywell claimed that you had to use certain USB-Comm port adapters, and I tried the one they recommended with no improvement. The best solution I found was to use an older laptop with a standard comm port which has been working flawlessly through many update cycles. I'm using the latest version of the GPS Database Loader. "Andrew Andersen" wrote in message ... For those interested, here's an update on this issue: Updating the Honeywell KLN 94 GPS from a MacBook Pro is now working with both Parallels 4 and VMWare Fusion with Windows XP using a Keyspan USA-19HS USB-serial adapter. IOGear USB and Prolific adapters have been tried without success. (It is POSSIBLE to establish a connection at 9600 using a Prolific adapter and a serial client utility to map the Windows serial port to an OS X pipe, but that does not seem able to pass the control code needed to increase the baud rate. At 9600 the update will take around 2 hours.) The key to the solution is the updated Windows XP drivers from Keyspan, version 3.7S. These are obtainable from the Keyspan website. The credit should go to Tom B. from KWDR, who first solved the mystery with VMWare Fusion. After he alerted me, I also succeeded with Parallels 4. In case this might be useful to anyone, this was my experience: 1. Installed the Keyspan USA-19HS v3.7S drivers on Windows XP SP3 VM under Parallels v4.0. This is the same driver file as used in Windows 2000. I did not install the OS X drivers, although Tom did in his tests. I used the Honeywell Bendix King GPS Database Loader version 1.7. If you have tried this before with earlier versions of the drivers, you will have noticed that the "internal loop back test" in Keyspan serial assistant, which had previously frequently failed, now works. 2. Connected to KLN 94 and on first attempt, received error "Ready for next diskette or data loader not ready" on KLN 94 after existing database erased. Configuration was: COM 5 (auto assigned), default Windows initial serial port settings, Com Port Adjustment 0. All other settings default. My second attempt produced the same error. For the third attempt, I experimented with values 5 and 10 for Com Port Adjustment in the GPS Database Loader, but noted that these precluded the successful switch from 9600 to 115200 baud, so reverted to a value of 0. At this point, I changed the Mac's OS X System Preferences for Energy Saver, Power Adapter, to "better performance" and manually altered the display and computer sleep parameters to sensible values (20 minutes and 1 hour 20 respectively). Using Device Manager in Win XP VM, the COM 5 port defaults were set to 9600, 8 bits, 1 stop bit, odd parity and no flow control. Set Parallels to always connect the Keyspan USA-19HS device to the VM. My purpose here was to try and eliminate factors that might prevent receipt by GPS Database Loader of the KLN 94's message that the database erase has been completed and the transfer can commence. 3. I then started the Keyspan Serial Assistant and restarted the KLN 94 and Honeywell BK GPS Database Loader program. 4. Whilst running GPS Database Loader, I used Keyspan Serial Assistant monitor to view comms between Mac and KLN 94. Observed nothing untoward there, but noted longish pauses between changing focus windows and moving between tabs in Serial Assistant. Nevertheless, the update completed successfully, although there was no indication on the GPS Database Loader program window of % status until completion. The KLN 94 display incremented progress as expected. 5. Set "transmit completion timing advance" to "Faster" in Keyspan Serial Assistant and then exited that program. 6. Restarted KLN 94 and GPS Database Loader program. Ran the latter again, but this time without Keyspan Serial Assistant, without any problems other than, as previously noted, progress indicator on the GPS Database Loader did not move until the update completed at 100%. The data transfer appeared to progress more quickly than usual, but I did not keep timings. I'm happy enough with the result to continue updating the KLN 94 from the Mac now. I hope this is some help to other KLN 94 owners in this situation. Regards Andrew/. tecsightATbigpondDOTnetDOTau On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 08:02:43 -0500, John Smith wrote: In article , Michelle wrote: John Smith wrote: In article , Michelle wrote: never got it to work with the same setup. The problem was Parallels USB driver translation. They keep claiming it has been fixed. You can turn it on manually in Parallels. I was listening to either a Security Now podcast that they mentioned how to do it, but I cannot remember which episode it was. Look for the podcasts that discuss virtualization. grc.com/securitynow.htm Oooh another security now listener! Yep, since the beginning. I consider it a free graduate level course in personal computer operation. I used the adapter Honeywell suggested on a KLN 89/B and didn't have any problems. You must follow the button pushing sequence as prompted from the Dataloader. -- Regards, Ross C-172F 180HP KSWI |
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"Ross" wrote in message
... I used the adapter Honeywell suggested on a KLN 89/B and didn't have any problems. You must follow the button pushing sequence as prompted from the Dataloader. I did also and got only intermittent operation. Sometimes it would fail right in the middle of the database upload (arggggg), but typically it just wouldn't work at all. I had tried 2 other adapters with similar results. I googled around and found some other people never got the recommended adapter to work either, but for some it seems to work fine. I suspect the laptop itself has something to do with it. At any rate with an older laptop with an RS-232 port it works like a charm every time. The old laptop I have has a dead battery and it's not much good for anything else. I just leave it in the hangar most of the time. |
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