GPS system

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:21:08 -0800 (PST), Mark
wrote:

Could anyone here tell me if a portable GPS system
of high quality would be of practical application to
small aircraft? It can be mounted.

Thanks.

have you lived in a cave all your life?

On Jan 9, 7:05*am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:21:08 -0800 (PST), Mark
wrote:

Could anyone here tell me if a portable GPS system
of high quality would be of practical application to
small aircraft? It can be mounted.

Thanks.

have you lived in a cave all your life?

No, its simply a matter of:

My limited experience of aviation has been in older planes
without GPS equipment, and more specifically,..

The GPS unit I have recently received was a gift, and I hadn't
familiarized my self with it as such, but did notice it seemed
geared more toward nautical data. Makes sense cause the
giver knows I also spend time on the water. I simply wanted
some intelligent feedback as to the parameters for
consideration for multiple applications of -any- GPS.

Thank you all for your feedback. It was perfect and now
I think I'll get another, better GPS developed specifically
for aviation.

The only time I spent in a cave was while exploring the
backwoods of West Virginia. It was a very harrowing
experience. Your mother wouldn't let go of my leg.

--
Mark

Mark wrote:

The GPS unit I have recently received was a gift, and I hadn't
familiarized my self with it as such, but did notice it seemed
geared more toward nautical data. Makes sense cause the
giver knows I also spend time on the water. I simply wanted
some intelligent feedback as to the parameters for
consideration for multiple applications of -any- GPS.

FYI most GPS units designed for land/sea use don't work very well
if at all at airplane speeds, i.e. not very much faster than a
car can go.


--
Jim Pennino

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FYI most GPS units designed for land/sea use don't work very well


You bring up one of my pet peeves with the Lowrance unit I am now using.

It defaults to including all the nautical stuff in the data base. Each time
I switch between land and aviation use I have to remove the undersea
obstructions, buoy, etc.

Even with my limited ceiling I don't often have to dodge marker buoys at
altitude.

Cheers:

Paul
N1431A
KSDM

On Jan 9, 3:27*pm, "Tri-Pacer" no wrote:
FYI most GPS units designed for land/sea use don't work very well

You bring up one of my pet peeves with the Lowrance unit I am now using.

It defaults to including all the nautical stuff in the data base. Each time
I switch between land and aviation use I have to remove the undersea
obstructions, buoy, etc.

Even with my limited ceiling I don't often have to dodge marker buoys at
altitude.

Cheers:

Paul
N1431A
KSDM

Paul,

All you have to do is go into the map catagories drawn menu and turn
off avaition. Everything else stays as you have programed it. I use
mine in my car and after the first time I told it to turn off Airmap
and go to land mode I too had to reset every thing.

I've got the AirMap 2000c and am just totally in love with it. Esp the
abillity to select the information you want displayed on a given page.


Frank "WOOF" Beagle
Challenger Dealer CHII N797FB
http://www.geocities.com/frankbeagle
http://frankbeagle.blogspot.com
ph# 708-269-8057

On Jan 9, 12:45*pm, wrote:
Mark wrote:
The GPS unit I have recently received was a gift, and I hadn't
familiarized my self with it as such, but did notice it seemed
geared more toward nautical data. Makes sense cause the
giver knows I also spend time on the water. I simply wanted
some intelligent feedback as to the parameters for
consideration for multiple applications of -any- GPS.

FYI most GPS units designed for land/sea use don't work very well
if at all at airplane speeds, i.e. not very much faster than a
car can go.

That was true for some Garmin models in the mid-90's that had an
artificial speed restriction (100 knots AIRC). But it hasn't been the
case with any of my hiking/automotive/boating GPS units since then.
They work fine at airliner speeds at giving accurate position and
altitude (although the latter is not to be used for maintaining flight
levels). Aviation-specific models clearly have advantages, but the
models designed for land/water use can also be quite useful.

On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 10:50:41 -0800 (PST), Mark
wrote:

On Jan 9, 7:05*am, Stealth Pilot
wrote:
On Thu, 8 Jan 2009 13:21:08 -0800 (PST), Mark
wrote:

Could anyone here tell me if a portable GPS system
of high quality would be of practical application to
small aircraft? It can be mounted.

Thanks.

have you lived in a cave all your life?

No, its simply a matter of:

My limited experience of aviation has been in older planes
without GPS equipment, and more specifically,..

The GPS unit I have recently received was a gift, and I hadn't
familiarized my self with it as such, but did notice it seemed
geared more toward nautical data. Makes sense cause the
giver knows I also spend time on the water. I simply wanted
some intelligent feedback as to the parameters for
consideration for multiple applications of -any- GPS.

Thank you all for your feedback. It was perfect and now
I think I'll get another, better GPS developed specifically
for aviation.

The only time I spent in a cave was while exploring the
backwoods of West Virginia. It was a very harrowing
experience. Your mother wouldn't let go of my leg.

the problem I had was that portable GPS units are in almost universal
use in private aircraft. you would have to have been living in a cave
not to have noticed.

I still use my Garmin GPS2plus which hasnt got a moving map display.
I use it like an ADF.

aviation compatible GPS units commonly track 12 satellites
simultaneously.
have a look at the garmin website and you will see the mainstream
products.

earlier gps units not for aviation couldnt work with speeds over 100
knots. that was their main limitation. this limitation has probably
been removed from most designs now.

my mother has a good sense of humour, she enjoys pulling legs.
Stealth Pilot

On Jan 10, 12:03*pm, Stealth Pilot
wrote:

the problem I had was that portable GPS units are in almost universal
use in private aircraft. you would have to have been living in a cave
not to have noticed.

Yeah, I know. I have a giant database of most aircraft flying today,
both old, and especially, the new ones that I desire. Although, the
172 trainer I use doesn't have one in it. And I see the typical 2
screen
configuration that comes with all the "good makes", especially the
nice composite planes.

Really what I might have asked (which is now answered) is what might
the drawbacks be of using a new handheld gps system which is not
aviation specific.

I still use my Garmin GPS2plus which hasnt got a moving map display.
I use it like an ADF.

hmm. This unit I got is a Lowrance. It seems fairly sophisticated,
and with the ability to add specific "cards", it can be software
modified to fit specific needs. But as was already pointed out,
it might just turn into a useless piece of plastic at 120kts.

aviation compatible GPS units commonly track 12 satellites
simultaneously.

mine tracks 10

have a look at the garmin website and you will see the mainstream
products.

Right. Hopefully the next GPS I get will not only be top of the
line aviation specific, but will come wrapped in an airplane.

earlier gps units not for aviation couldnt work with speeds over 100
knots. that was their main limitation. this limitation has probably
been removed from most designs now.

Actually that was one of my main concerns. The improvements
would need to be with reception and calculating speed to track
vectors. I figured no salesperson would know or admit that the
unit wouldn't work over 100 kts.

my mother has a good sense of humour, she enjoys pulling legs.

She was very nice. I was especially impressed with the stalactitic
decorum of your old room.

Stealth Pilot-

---
Mark

Hm....my 1998-era Garmin 12 (one of the original units for hiking) works
just as well in the aircraft at speeds over 140 kts as my Garmin Pilot III
which was designed for aviation. In fact, on a 747 flight to Oz, the
G12 worked just dandy (this was before 911 when no one objected)

On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 17:03:25 GMT, Stealth Pilot wrote:

my mother has a good sense of humour, she enjoys pulling legs.
Stealth Pilot

If she had only left your middle one alone, think of how different you
might have become.