glider ride business - practical? bad idea?

On Feb 7, 5:14*pm, DRN wrote:
[snip]
Clearly you need an Antares 20E !
Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"www.nadler.com

Certainly meets the "get your check book out" bit ;-)


Darryl

On Feb 7, 10:18*pm, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Feb 7, 5:14*pm, DRN wrote:
[snip]

Clearly you need an Antares 20E !
Best Regards, Dave "YO electric"www.nadler.com

Certainly meets the "get your check book out" bit ;-)

Darryl

Also easiest to operate with single power-lever, and
fabulous handling makes it very easy to fly...
A lot more forgiving and less fuss than other
motor-gliders !

See ya, Dave "YO electric"

Dave,

Also easiest to operate with single power-lever, and
fabulous handling makes it very easy to fly...
A lot more forgiving and less fuss than other
motor-gliders !

See ya, Dave "YO electric"


,

The Antares is impressive in looks, performance, and especially in
engineering . . .

But in a glider ride business scenario, how many customers could you take up
to 3,000+ feet in a row on a no-lift day? Or to 1.5K on a day with good
lift? Wouldn't the need to charge batteries be a hassle in that application?

bumper

On Feb 8, 9:08*am, "bumper" wrote:
Dave,

Also easiest to operate with single power-lever, and
fabulous handling makes it very easy to fly...
A lot more forgiving and less fuss than other
motor-gliders !

See ya, Dave "YO electric"

,

The Antares is impressive in looks, performance, and especially in
engineering . . .

But in a glider ride business scenario, how many customers could you take up
to 3,000+ feet in a row on a no-lift day? Or to 1.5K on a day with good
lift? Wouldn't the need to charge batteries be a hassle in that application?

bumper

Ah Bumper, I think the single seat might be more of an issue. I don't
think Dave was advocating the 20E for a ride business, just a a
motorglider to purchase.

But then I'm amused by talking to talk to ride operators and hear
about passengers with no flight experience arriving thinking *they*
are going to fly the glider by themselves, maybe take the girlfriend
up for a quick flight. Yes this really happens.

Darryl

"Darryl Ramm"
Ah Bumper, I think the single seat might be more of an issue. I don't
think Dave was advocating the 20E for a ride business, just a a
motorglider to purchase.

But then I'm amused by talking to talk to ride operators and hear
about passengers with no flight experience arriving thinking *they*
are going to fly the glider by themselves, maybe take the girlfriend
up for a quick flight. Yes this really happens.

Darryl


Dammit! I just hate it when the brain cell that dies is the one I happen to
be using at the moment.

Somewhere in the back of my feeble old mind I just knew it was a single
seater!

bumper
QV 'n MKIII - - the best, cheapest toys you can by for your glider on its
birthday.

This is an entertaining thread! Right down my alley, been in the ride
business now for 40+ years. Switched from mutiple gliders and
towplanes to one selflauncher 16 years ago, then a Grob Twin IIISL.
There were several reasons:
semi retirement, airport parking- taxiing, pilots etc. Self launching
is the future! I am always wondering why not more com operators do
more of it or convert. Most likely cost.
As for the US-Russian, he has logical ideas, also a big family. Busy
guy! Good training there with the Russians!
He might not want to rush into things, might end up going back to that
Mtn valley in Russia. Lots of rich Russians now that might want to
pick up Soaring fast for money, rather than clubs.

It takes a resort nearby to have a good ride business, possibly an
interstate highway, but a resort is better. Yeah and defenitely a two
seater! Bumper, you are not the only one. But of course there are com
operators that also into teaching and rentals. For that the Antares
might work? One could go on and on!

Think Up!

Soarski

Originally Posted by

This is an entertaining thread! Right down my alley, been in the ride
business now for 40+ years. Switched from mutiple gliders and
towplanes to one selflauncher 16 years ago, then a Grob Twin IIISL.
There were several reasons:
semi retirement, airport parking- taxiing, pilots etc. Self launching
is the future! I am always wondering why not more com operators do
more of it or convert. Most likely cost.
As for the US-Russian, he has logical ideas, also a big family. Busy
guy! Good training there with the Russians!
He might not want to rush into things, might end up going back to that
Mtn valley in Russia. Lots of rich Russians now that might want to
pick up Soaring fast for money, rather than clubs.

It takes a resort nearby to have a good ride business, possibly an
interstate highway, but a resort is better. Yeah and defenitely a two
seater! Bumper, you are not the only one. But of course there are com
operators that also into teaching and rentals. For that the Antares
might work? One could go on and on!

Think Up!

Soarski

Soarski, I am actually in Kazakhstan. But since it was a colony in the Russian and then the Soviet Empire for so long many of the same traits apply. Russians, having only recently become affluent, are still in a rather immature phase of capitalism: huge, ostentatious houses, Porsche Carreras, Land Rovers, peroxide girlfriends half their ages with beauty shelf lives of about 5 years, vacations at the usual expensive but tired Euro hotspots. Ok, some rich Russians are into aviation but only very few and they are into flashing expensive aircraft. Virtually, no one here even understands what a sailplane it much less has a desire to fly one. Soaring is far too esoteric for their current stage of development. I don’t think there’s much of an immediate future for soaring here. The people keeping the sport alive are virtually destitute and doing it out of shear enthusiasm. They are keeping their old fleets of Wilga tow planes and Blaniks alive by cannibalism and duct tape! At the Fall of the USSR out of shear desperation many Clubs sold off their higher performance ships to european scavengers. Now they regret it. There used to be 5 state funded clubs in Kaz, now there is one and it will die when the 2 - 3 aging instructors bite the dust.