Russia to approve new Moon rocket

On Mar 16, 7:19*pm, Bluuuue Rajah Bluuuuue@Rajah. wrote:
Russia to approve new Moon rocket *

"In the field of heavy-lifting rockets we have… the yet-to-be-flown
Angara (rocket), while the requirements for the next-generation rocket
are within the same category," Mr Chulkov said.

The Angara rocket, which has been under development since the mid-1990s,
is expected to make its maiden flight in 2011.

It would be capable of carrying as many as 35 tonnes into low-Earth
orbit. But some of its derivatives could lift between 40 and 50 tonnes.

According to documents from the Khrunichev enterprise, developer of the
Angara rocket, up to four launches of the Angara-7 vehicle would be
required to accomplish a single lunar expedition. By comparison, Nasa
can rely on one Ares-I rocket and one Ares-V for each Moon landing.

Any possibility that they could revive the Energia? As I recall, that
was comparable in lift to the Ares V.

Peter Wezeman
anti-social Darwinist

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On Mar 16, 7:19*pm, Bluuuue Rajah Bluuuuue@Rajah. wrote:
Russia to approve new Moon rocket *

"In the field of heavy-lifting rockets we have… the yet-to-be-flown
Angara (rocket), while the requirements for the next-generation
rocket are within the same category," Mr Chulkov said.

The Angara rocket, which has been under development since the
mid-1990s, is expected to make its maiden flight in 2011.

It would be capable of carrying as many as 35 tonnes into low-Earth
orbit. But some of its derivatives could lift between 40 and 50
tonnes.

According to documents from the Khrunichev enterprise, developer of
the Angara rocket, up to four launches of the Angara-7 vehicle would
be required to accomplish a single lunar expedition. By comparison,
Nasa can rely on one Ares-I rocket and one Ares-V for each Moon
landing.

Any possibility that they could revive the Energia? As I recall, that
was comparable in lift to the Ares V.

They didn't get very much use out of that did they? Apparently it was
built to carry a shuttle lookalike that had no engines. I'm not aware
that thing ever flew.

Energia put Mir up (over several launches).
"Bluuuue Rajah" Bluuuuue@Rajah. wrote in message
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On Mar 16, 7:19 pm, Bluuuue Rajah Bluuuuue@Rajah. wrote:
Russia to approve new Moon rocket

"In the field of heavy-lifting rockets we have. the yet-to-be-flown
Angara (rocket), while the requirements for the next-generation
rocket are within the same category," Mr Chulkov said.

The Angara rocket, which has been under development since the
mid-1990s, is expected to make its maiden flight in 2011.

It would be capable of carrying as many as 35 tonnes into low-Earth
orbit. But some of its derivatives could lift between 40 and 50
tonnes.

According to documents from the Khrunichev enterprise, developer of
the Angara rocket, up to four launches of the Angara-7 vehicle would
be required to accomplish a single lunar expedition. By comparison,
Nasa can rely on one Ares-I rocket and one Ares-V for each Moon
landing.

Any possibility that they could revive the Energia? As I recall, that
was comparable in lift to the Ares V.

They didn't get very much use out of that did they? Apparently it was
built to carry a shuttle lookalike that had no engines. I'm not aware
that thing ever flew.

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:22:05 -0800, "Matt Wiser"
wrote:

Energia put Mir up (over several launches).


Afaik, The Energia was only used for 2 launches: one put the Buran
into orbit and one carried the secret Polyus "combat" satellite.

The Mir was luanched using Proton.

Aglooka

aglooka wrote in news:c986s4d2rggvg1ob7t2ulcvttss1br670r@
4ax.com:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:22:05 -0800, "Matt Wiser"
wrote:

Energia put Mir up (over several launches).

Afaik, The Energia was only used for 2 launches: one put the Buran
into orbit and one carried the secret Polyus "combat" satellite.

The Mir was luanched using Proton.

I didn't think the Buran ever flew. I thought it was just a showpiece so
they could boast that they were keeping up with the west, much like the
latest moonshot plans.

On Mar 20, 7:44 am, Bluuuue Rajah Bluuuuue@Rajah. wrote:
aglooka wrote in news:c986s4d2rggvg1ob7t2ulcvttss1br670r@
4ax.com:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:22:05 -0800, "Matt Wiser"
wrote:

Energia put Mir up (over several launches).

Afaik, The Energia was only used for 2 launches: one put the Buran
into orbit and one carried the secret Polyus "combat" satellite.

The Mir was luanched using Proton.

I didn't think the Buran ever flew. I thought it was just a showpiece so
they could boast that they were keeping up with the west, much like the
latest moonshot plans.

I think Frank mentioned about observing satellites,
if this is true,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shuttle_Buran
would have been noticed or not, no ambiguity.
Ken

"Bluuuue Rajah" Bluuuuue@Rajah. wrote in message
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I didn't think the Buran ever flew. I thought it was just a showpiece so
they could boast that they were keeping up with the west, much like the
latest moonshot plans.

One unmanned flight, apparently successful:

From .http://www.russianspaceweb.com/buran.html
"1988 Nov. 15: 06:00:02 Moscow Time: The Energia super booster carrying an
unmanned Buran reusable shuttle blasted off from Baikonur. 206 minutes or
two orbits later, the Buran automatically landed at the Yubileiniy airfield
at Site 251 in Baikonur."

Vaughn

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"Bluuuue Rajah" Bluuuuue@Rajah. wrote in message
. 17.102...

I didn't think the Buran ever flew. I thought it was just a
showpiece so they could boast that they were keeping up with the
west, much like the latest moonshot plans.

One unmanned flight, apparently successful:

From .http://www.russianspaceweb.com/buran.html
"1988 Nov. 15: 06:00:02 Moscow Time: The Energia super booster
carrying an unmanned Buran reusable shuttle blasted off from Baikonur.
206 minutes or two orbits later, the Buran automatically landed at the
Yubileiniy airfield at Site 251 in Baikonur."

Another stunning triumph for the motherland.

In article 02,
Bluuuue Rajah Bluuuuue@Rajah. wrote:

aglooka wrote in news:c986s4d2rggvg1ob7t2ulcvttss1br670r@
4ax.com:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:22:05 -0800, "Matt Wiser"
wrote:

Energia put Mir up (over several launches).

Afaik, The Energia was only used for 2 launches: one put the Buran
into orbit and one carried the secret Polyus "combat" satellite.

The Mir was luanched using Proton.

I didn't think the Buran ever flew. I thought it was just a showpiece so
they could boast that they were keeping up with the west, much like the
latest moonshot plans.

There was at least one unmanned flight, 15 Nov. 1988. Then the project
funding was cut back, and officially ended in 1993.

Steve Hix wrote in
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In article 02,
Bluuuue Rajah Bluuuuue@Rajah. wrote:

aglooka wrote in
news:c986s4d2rggvg1ob7t2ulcvttss1br670r@ 4ax.com:

On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:22:05 -0800, "Matt Wiser"
wrote:

Energia put Mir up (over several launches).

Afaik, The Energia was only used for 2 launches: one put the Buran
into orbit and one carried the secret Polyus "combat" satellite.

The Mir was luanched using Proton.

I didn't think the Buran ever flew. I thought it was just a
showpiece so they could boast that they were keeping up with the
west, much like the latest moonshot plans.

There was at least one unmanned flight, 15 Nov. 1988. Then the project
funding was cut back, and officially ended in 1993.

It's parked mext to MFTF-B.