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Robert Moore wrote:
James Robinson wrote The drop in airspeed was unnoticed, and the stall seemed to catch them completely by surprise. I wonder what the stall warning was doing all of this time? The FDR data is posted on the NTSB web site, in both graphical and text form. Here's a link to the graphical data: http://www.ntsb.gov/Dockets/Aviation...027/417236.pdf Looking at the graphs, the aircraft settled in at 2400 ft pressure alt (1650 ft radio alt) with AP on in heading mode. After leveling off, 5 deg flaps were selected, and the throttles were increased to about 30% torque. Over the next minute, the airspeed slowly climbed from about 160 kts to about 190 kts. The next significant event was the throttles were dropped to about 10 percent torque, and 5 seconds later gear down was selected. At the same time, the AP switched from heading mode to LOC mode, as the localizer was captured, still maintaining altitude. Airspeed was initially dropping at 2 kts per second, and increased to about 3 kts per second as the gear extended. The airspeed dropped to about 130 knots over the next 25 seconds, and at the same time, the AP steadily increased pitch from about 3 degrees to 10 degrees to maintain altitude. The next events happened in rapid succession: - Ice detect alarm on (message flashes on display). - Flaps increased to 10 degrees. - 2 seconds after flap select, at about 130 kts, the stick shaker activates (It is set to activate on low airspeed, indicating impending stall.) - 20 lbs. pull is shown on both left and right control columns in response, and throttles are increased to 75% torque. - Aircraft pitches up sharply, reaching 30 degrees over the next five seconds. - As the aircraft pitches up, the AP shuts off. - 2 seconds after the start of the pitch-up, the aircraft rolls sharply left, and the stick pusher is activated. The aircraft rolls 50 degrees over 2 seconds. The stick pusher is triggered by high AOA, and indicates that the aircraft has stalled. - Both the rudder pedals and control wheels are in a neutral position while this is happening, so the sudden roll is likely because of differential ice accretion and the left wing stalling, as a guess. - In response to the roll, the wheel is moved to the right, and the right rudder pedal is pressed. The aircraft rolls from left 50 degrees to right 100 degrees in 5 seconds. - While the pitching and rolling is going on, airspeed is sitting at about 100 kts, and the FO retracts the flaps on her own initiative. - The right roll is overcorrected, and the aircraft rolls to 40 degrees left, and then again rolls right to 100 degrees for a second time. - Finally, the roll is stabilizing at 30 degrees right, but the aircraft has pitched down by 45 degrees. They attempt to pull out of the dive, pulling up to 2Gs with 170 lbs combined pull on both control columns. (120 on left, 50 on right) but run out of altitude. - Airspeed at the end of the recording is about 130 knots, pitch down at 25 degrees, power still at 75%, gear being retracted. Altitude loss is 900 feet in the last five seconds, with no sign of abatement. Overall time from start of stick shaker to end of recording is about 25 seconds. So where does this all end up? The crew was inattentive to the speed loss, and everything hit them at once. They reacted the wrong way to the impending stall by pulling the nose up and applying power, ending up with a true power-on stall. Retracting the flaps and gear was also questionable. The captain overreacted to the rolls making things worse, and unrecoverable. The NTSB is probably going to come down hard on the airline on crew selection, training, and management oversight. They will also hit the FAA for not having sufficient training and check requirements. Overall, this will probably be a watershed accident for the regional carriers, where many rules regarding hiring, training and proficiency testing will be substantially tightened. |
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