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Old January 5th 04, 07:38 PM
Chad Irby
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It's only the second batch of Super Hornets, it's looking like that
third batch isn't going to be bought. And it looks like the 90 Growlers
are going to be part of that 210.


Nice speculation Chad, but as usual, you are mistaken.


Nope. The recent buy of 210 is only the second batch out of what was
supposed to be 538, and it's not likely to be extended (since this buy
is only good through 2010). The 2010 date was supposed to be the end of
the oroginal F/A-18E/F buy, and about half of this buy are F/A-18G
Growlers to replace the Prowler. So the F-18 has been cut back by about
200 planes. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

The Navy loves the F-18 and it is advantaged over even the F-35, due
to it's COTS design.


....which is why they're cutting back on the F-18 buy so much, and
substituting F-18G models for the regular ones?

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Old January 5th 04, 07:45 PM
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In article ,
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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It's only the second batch of Super Hornets, it's looking like that
third batch isn't going to be bought. And it looks like the 90

Growlers
are going to be part of that 210.


Nice speculation Chad, but as usual, you are mistaken.


Nope. The recent buy of 210 is only the second batch out of what was
supposed to be 538, and it's not likely to be extended (since this buy
is only good through 2010).


Actually, the original purchase was for 526 and if you check Boeing's
website there are about 20 additions, today. As posted by Doering, IIRC.

The 2010 date was supposed to be the end of
the oroginal F/A-18E/F buy, and about half of this buy are F/A-18G
Growlers to replace the Prowler. So the F-18 has been cut back by about
200 planes. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.


No, the F/A-18 was always intended to replace all execept the F/A-18As.
What has happened is that the Navy has bought the second option of the
original contract and added R&D money for an electronics bird designated
"G". In combat, the F/A-18E exibited extraordinary reliability and this
pleased the Navy greatly.

The Navy loves the F-18 and it is advantaged over even the F-35, due
to it's COTS design.


...which is why they're cutting back on the F-18 buy so much, and
substituting F-18G models for the regular ones?


LOL

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Old January 5th 04, 09:37 PM
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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It's only the second batch of Super Hornets, it's looking like that
third batch isn't going to be bought. And it looks like the 90

Growlers
are going to be part of that 210.

Nice speculation Chad, but as usual, you are mistaken.


Nope. The recent buy of 210 is only the second batch out of what was
supposed to be 538, and it's not likely to be extended (since this buy
is only good through 2010).


Actually, the original purchase was for 526 and if you check Boeing's
website there are about 20 additions, today. As posted by Doering, IIRC.


I've seen different numbers, but even with the 526, that's a lot less
planes (less than 450, and 90 of those will be G models, instead of the
500+ F/A-18E/F).

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Old January 5th 04, 10:16 PM
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote in message
. com...

It's only the second batch of Super Hornets, it's looking like

that
third batch isn't going to be bought. And it looks like the 90

Growlers
are going to be part of that 210.

Nice speculation Chad, but as usual, you are mistaken.

Nope. The recent buy of 210 is only the second batch out of what was
supposed to be 538, and it's not likely to be extended (since this buy
is only good through 2010).


Actually, the original purchase was for 526 and if you check Boeing's
website there are about 20 additions, today. As posted by Doering,

IIRC.

I've seen different numbers, but even with the 526, that's a lot less
planes (less than 450, and 90 of those will be G models, instead of the
500+ F/A-18E/F).


210 + 222 = 432

You don't really get how business is done, Irby.


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Old January 6th 04, 01:07 AM
Chad Irby
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In article ,
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote:


I've seen different numbers, but even with the 526, that's a lot less
planes (less than 450, and 90 of those will be G models, instead of the
500+ F/A-18E/F).


210 + 222 = 432

You don't really get how business is done, Irby.


Well, since 432 is less than 450, and both are less than the 538/526,
that's a decrease.

And I *do* get how business is done. When you've got a new plane with a
bunch of new capabilities coming up, you buy less of the old ones. It's
been that way in the military for longer than any of us have been alive.

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Old January 6th 04, 01:42 AM
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"Chad Irby" wrote in message
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In article ,
"Tarver Engineering" wrote:

"Chad Irby" wrote:


I've seen different numbers, but even with the 526, that's a lot less
planes (less than 450, and 90 of those will be G models, instead of

the
500+ F/A-18E/F).


210 + 222 = 432

You don't really get how business is done, Irby.


Well, since 432 is less than 450, and both are less than the 538/526,
that's a decrease.


The third option is still on the table.


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Old January 6th 04, 02:21 AM
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(about the purchase of the F/A-18E/F)

The third option is still on the table.


Not really. The third batch was suposed to come in by 2010 or so, and
the current contract got extended to 2011 (and almost half of those are
going to end up being F-18G models). Not many folks think there's a
chance of more past that, especially with much newer and stealthy planes
on the way with more capabilities.

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