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Old June 18th 09, 01:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Ross
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jun 17, 12:10 pm, Ross wrote:
Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jun 16, 2:55 pm, haribole wrote:
Hello
Would appreciate any recommendations for a realistic PC based flight
simulator that can be used to learn the principles of flying.
Any experience on using a PC based flight simulator to enhance the
learning experience would be welcome.
Thanks
Hari
There are several desktop sims you could use. As a flight instructor
and an advisor for Microsoft I naturally prefer MSFS. I use their
FS2004 version.
I will also note that I recommend the use of the sim only before
starting actual flight training and after solo; before as a
familiarization tool, and after solo as a procedures aid.
I don't recommend the use of the sim at all during the pre solo period
as it is paramount during this period that control pressures used
flying the actual aircraft in use as a trainer be learned.
Other than this, the sim can be an interesting and useful tool for
learning and entertainment.
Dudley Henriques
MVP Microsoft Flight Simulator 2006-2007
CFI Retired

Hey, Dubley, most know that I have had to sell my airplane and stop PIC
due to medical. It MSFS something that would keep ones interest if I
purchased the control wheel, rudder peddles, etc? I had an instrument
rating and still marvel at the design of these procedures and what can
be accomplished. Now, I am not sure that I want to go as far as Jay did
with Kiwi.

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Regards, Ross
C-172F 180HP
Sold
KSWI


Absolutely! What has been developed for the sim is wonderful and
accurate. Some add on aircraft are real beyond belief. I'm flying an
F86 Sabre right now in FS2004 that is real enough that I could
actually use it as a tool to help check out a pilot in the aircraft.
Take a look at this Sabre if you like.
http://www.sectionf8.com/

I believe there are add on Cessna 182's that the group might know
about that are excellent as well.
BY all means use the sim. It's a great program.
Sorry to hear about your medical. You and I share this together as I
am no longer flying for the same reason.
Best to you,
Dudley Henriques


Thanks, I might have to try that for the fun of it. I promise I will not
become a MXer.....

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C-172F 180HP
Sold
KSWI
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Old June 18th 09, 02:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Ross" wrote

Thanks, I might have to try that for the fun of it. I promise I will not
become a MXer.....


Thanks for that, but I don't think you are nearly unbalanced enough for that!
g

Remember, if it is a pure sim question, the sim group is your best support. ;-)
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Old June 18th 09, 06:08 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Morgans wrote:

"Ross" wrote

Thanks, I might have to try that for the fun of it. I promise I will
not become a MXer.....


Thanks for that, but I don't think you are nearly unbalanced enough for
that! g

Remember, if it is a pure sim question, the sim group is your best
support. ;-)


Yes, but I would then want to ask questions on how sim flying applies to
real life flying, you remember the questions.........just kidding.

I guess I need to go over there and find out what is a reasonable to buy
and not go way out. Again, I am not building a Kiwi (sorry Jay)

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Sold
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Old June 18th 09, 08:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Morgans[_2_]
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"Ross" wrote support. ;-)

Yes, but I would then want to ask questions on how sim flying applies to real
life flying, you remember the questions.........just kidding.


And then argue that the answer giver is wrong, and they really are just an angry
young male that lets testosterone rule their reactions and thoughts, and that
all pilots in general do not know the subject as good as you do.

Oh, for good measure, throw in the fact that the reason you are a failure in
life is because everyone has it out for you, because you are so smart.

Does that about cover it?

Not that I'm complaining, but it sure is nice he blew out as quickly as he blew
in. I wish the word would get out so we could get back to the quality and
quantity of discussions we used to have. I wonder if it will ever recover to
those days.
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Old June 18th 09, 10:53 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel[_6_]
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In article ,
"Morgans" wrote:

I wish the word would get out so we could get back to the quality and
quantity of discussions we used to have. I wonder if it will ever recover...


With ISPs dropping newsgroups and the web forums, I kind of doubt
there will be much recovery.
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Old June 19th 09, 12:23 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Dudley Henriques[_2_]
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On Jun 18, 5:53*pm, Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,

*"Morgans" wrote:
I wish the word would get out so we could get back to the quality and
quantity of discussions we used to have. *I wonder if it will ever recover...


With ISPs dropping newsgroups and the web forums, I kind of doubt
there will be much recovery.


RCN (my ISP) dropped Usenet some time ago. I liked the venue and hated
to leave it altogether. I know most people hate Google Groups, but I
signed on and have been using this reader now for some time. It's not
too bad really. It's up more than it's down and I'm not a kill file
freak (simply ignore those worth ignoring :-) so the filter issues
that seem to bug everyone else don't seem to be bothering me. I also
don't need a bianary capability; just text so Google is fine for me.
I in fact would recommend Google Groups for Usenet if people have an
ISP problem with access. It's a free reader and for some that's a big
plus.
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.
Dudley Henriques
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Old June 19th 09, 12:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Tom Duhamel
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.


Mozilla Thunderbird, which I use and love, is available for more
operating systems than you could name.

I would say that the Google reader is probably fine for the casual user,
just not flexible enough for the more demanding users. I know, I demand
too much

Tom
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Old June 19th 09, 02:52 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Jun 19, 11:23*am, Dudley Henriques wrote:
On Jun 18, 5:53*pm, Bob Noel wrote:

In article ,


*"Morgans" wrote:
I wish the word would get out so we could get back to the quality and
quantity of discussions we used to have. *I wonder if it will ever recover...


With ISPs dropping newsgroups and the web forums, I kind of doubt
there will be much recovery.


RCN (my ISP) dropped Usenet some time ago. I liked the venue and hated
to leave it altogether. I know most people hate Google Groups, but I
signed on and have been using this reader now for some time. It's not
too bad really. It's up more than it's down and I'm not a kill file
freak (simply ignore those worth ignoring :-) so the filter issues
that seem to bug everyone else don't seem to be bothering me. I also
don't need a bianary capability; just text so Google is fine for me.
I in fact would recommend Google Groups for Usenet if people have an
ISP problem with access. It's a free reader and for some that's a big
plus.
*I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.


Look up Greasemonkey. It's designed to work as a Killfile in Google
Groups

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Old June 19th 09, 03:32 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Bob Noel[_2_]
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Dudley Henriques wrote:
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.


Well, MT-Newswatcher is better than anything I've seen on PCs
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Old June 19th 09, 03:51 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Mike Ash
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In article
,
Dudley Henriques wrote:

On Jun 18, 5:53*pm, Bob Noel wrote:
In article ,

*"Morgans" wrote:
I wish the word would get out so we could get back to the quality and
quantity of discussions we used to have. *I wonder if it will ever
recover...


With ISPs dropping newsgroups and the web forums, I kind of doubt
there will be much recovery.


RCN (my ISP) dropped Usenet some time ago. I liked the venue and hated
to leave it altogether. I know most people hate Google Groups, but I
signed on and have been using this reader now for some time. It's not
too bad really. It's up more than it's down and I'm not a kill file
freak (simply ignore those worth ignoring :-) so the filter issues
that seem to bug everyone else don't seem to be bothering me. I also
don't need a bianary capability; just text so Google is fine for me.
I in fact would recommend Google Groups for Usenet if people have an
ISP problem with access. It's a free reader and for some that's a big
plus.
I'm on a Mac so it's a double good hit for me as good news readers
for Macs are not as plentiful as they are for PC's.
Just throwing this out for general consumption.


I'm using eternal-september.org (previously motzarella.org) for my news
service. They provide a real news server that's 100% free and pretty
good. You sound like you're happy, but for others who don't like Google
Groups, that's a good alternative.

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Mike Ash
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