OK someone help me

When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John

Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.


That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. No USB hub there! But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve

On Sep 8, 6:07*am, jcarlyle wrote:
When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John



Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.

That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. *Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! *But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. *You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
*If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
*You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. *No USB hub there! *But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. *All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian

On Sep 8, 8:56*am, brianDG303 wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07*am, jcarlyle wrote:





When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John

Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.

That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. *Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! *But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. *You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
*If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
*You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. *No USB hub there! *But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. *All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah I did this, too. Actually that was a great selling tool since I
bought a license when my trial expired :-)

Pete

At 14:19 08 September 2009, vontresc wrote:
On Sep 8, 8:56=A0am, brianDG303 wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07=A0am, jcarlyle wrote:





When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file
in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John

Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as
an
I=
GC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.

That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. =A0Not too likely
with=
a
borrowed logger! =A0But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. =A0You might look at your
gar=
min
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a
cai
=
file.
=A0If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try
the
=
program.
=A0You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and
a
fe=
w "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to
my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking
with
i=
t
through a REAL serial port. =A0No USB hub there! =A0But to get any
fu=
rther, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a
newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. =A0All my
tlaking
=
to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial
view=
ing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yeah I did this, too. Actually that was a great selling tool since I
bought a license when my trial expired :-)

Pete


Trial (Free, unlicenced) SeeYou runs for two weeks with full
functionality, after that bits begin to stop working, but I believe the
downloader will keep on working forever. For Cambridge 20/25 it works
better with a USB-Serial converter (it's a timing thing apparently)

There are plenty of free programs which will do your Cambridge 10/20/25
download and conversion, including Cambridge utility and Cambridge Aero
Explorer (both available freely from the Cambridge Instruments' website),
there are also the old Dos download and validate programs if you've got
really ancient hardware to run it on!

Cambridge Aero Explorer:
http://www.cambridge-aero.com/CA_exp...tm#pc_software
Cambridge Utility:
http://www.cambridge-aero.com/execut...tilInstall.zip
Dos programs:
http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/freeware.asp

For most everything except Cambridge, you can use the IGC Shell program
and appropriate dll
http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/freeware.asp

On Sep 8, 6:56*am, brianDG303 wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07*am, jcarlyle wrote:





When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John

Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.

That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. *Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! *But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. *You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
*If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
*You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. *No USB hub there! *But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. *All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian

I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.

I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
to validate the igc file?

Thanks,
Brad

Brad wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:56 am, brianDG303 wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07 am, jcarlyle wrote:





When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.
-John
Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as an IGC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.
That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. Not too likely with a
borrowed logger! But, yes, that will also work.
Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. You might look at your garmin
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a .cai file.
If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try the program.
You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and a few "k"
of memory on the old machine!
And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking with it
through a REAL serial port. No USB hub there! But to get any further, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. All my tlaking to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial viewing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.
Still Old School for sure,
Steve- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian

I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.

I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
to validate the igc file?

File/Save As


Thanks,
Brad

At 16:59 08 September 2009, Brad wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:56=A0am, brianDG303 wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07=A0am, jcarlyle wrote:





When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file
in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John

Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as
an
I=
GC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.

That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. =A0Not too likely
with=
a
borrowed logger! =A0But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. =A0You might look at your
gar=
min
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a
cai
=
file.
=A0If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try
the
=
program.
=A0You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and
a
fe=
w "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to
my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking
with
i=
t
through a REAL serial port. =A0No USB hub there! =A0But to get any
fu=
rther, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a
newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. =A0All my
tlaking
=
to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial
view=
ing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian

I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.

I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
to validate the igc file?

Thanks,
Brad

XCSoar isn't on the OLC approved list
http://www2.onlinecontest.org/validate.php
so your file won't be valid.

If cai2igc4olc doesn't convert your Garmin gdb file, try this site:
http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/gpsbabel/

On Sep 8, 11:30*am, Edward wrote:
At 16:59 08 September 2009, Brad wrote:



On Sep 8, 6:56=A0am, brianDG303 *wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07=A0am, jcarlyle *wrote:

When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file
in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John

Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as
an
I=
GC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.

That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. =A0Not too likely
with=
a
borrowed logger! =A0But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. =A0You might look at your
gar=
min
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a
cai
=
file.
=A0If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try
the
=
program.
=A0You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and
a
fe=
w "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to
my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking
with
i=
t
through a REAL serial port. =A0No USB hub there! =A0But to get any
fu=
rther, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a
newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. =A0All my
tlaking
=
to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial
view=
ing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian

I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.

I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
to validate the igc file?

Thanks,
Brad

XCSoar isn't on the OLC approved listhttp://www2.onlinecontest.org/validate.php
so your file won't be valid.

If cai2igc4olc doesn't convert your Garmin gdb file, try this site:http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/gpsbabel/

I do use the gps babel program to convert gdb to igc, that still
results in invalid OLC posting

Brad

On Sep 8, 3:10*pm, Brad wrote:
On Sep 8, 11:30*am, Edward * wrote:





At 16:59 08 September 2009, Brad wrote:

On Sep 8, 6:56=A0am, brianDG303 *wrote:
On Sep 8, 6:07=A0am, jcarlyle *wrote:

When I used a Cambridge 25, I also had an iPAQ 3950 running Glide
Navigator II. At the end of the flight GNII would save the log file
in
both .cai and .igc form onto the SD card, which I took home. SeeYou
did its magic and uploaded to OLC. Quick, easy, and almost fool-
proof.

-John

Steve Leonard wrote:
At 05:59 08 September 2009, Greg Arnold wrote:
You can also open the CAI file in SeeYou, save it in Seeyou as
an
I=
GC
file, then upload that IGC file to OLC.

That would be assuming you have bought SeeYou. =A0Not too likely
with=
a
borrowed logger! =A0But, yes, that will also work.

Brad, not sure, but I kind of doubt it. =A0You might look at your
gar=
min
file and see if it looks like the same format for the data as a
cai
=
file.
=A0If it does, try saving it with a .cai file extension, and try
the
=
program.
=A0You don't have anything to lose but a few minutes of time and
a
fe=
w "k"
of memory on the old machine!

And for what it is worth relative to SeeYou, etc, I am talking to
my
loggers with an old TI Extensa running Windows 98, and talking
with
i=
t
through a REAL serial port. =A0No USB hub there! =A0But to get any
fu=
rther, I
have to save it to a floppy, the use my USB floppy drive on a
newer
computer to read the file, convert it, and upload. =A0All my
tlaking
=
to the
logger is done with the old Cambridge DOS program, as is initial
view=
ing.
Later viewing is done using the upgraded AeroExplorer II.

Still Old School for sure,

Steve- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It might be possible to use SeeYou without buying it. Andej doesn't
disable many features in his trial versions of SY and SYM, I flew 15
flights on the trial version of SYM before buying it.

Brian

I do have a licensed copy of SeeYou for the PC. I got the key after I
realized that it really turns to cripple ware after the trial.

I open my XCsoar generated igc files to view at them in SeeYou before
I post to OLC.............should I do a save or a save-as from SeeYou
to validate the igc file?

Thanks,
Brad

XCSoar isn't on the OLC approved listhttp://www2.onlinecontest.org/validate.php
so your file won't be valid.

If cai2igc4olc doesn't convert your Garmin gdb file, try this site:http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/gpsbabel/

I do use the gps babel program to convert gdb to igc, that still
results in invalid OLC posting

Brad- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

GPS Babel generates an igc file, but will not generate the security
record.

Try G7ToWin http://www.gpsinformation.org/ronh/g7towin.htm

It downloads directly from your GPS, and should generate an OLC
valid .icg file

Peter

Brad wrote:
I do use the gps babel program to convert gdb to igc, that still
results in invalid OLC posting

Brad

I think the validation is to do with whether the logger is on the IGC
secure list or not. Your Garmin isn't, so can't produce a validated file
no matter what you do to it after download.

..igc is just the format - the validation comes from the security built
into the logger (or not, in the case of Garmin GPSs, XCSoar logs from
PDAs, etc).

You only need validation for badge and record claims, so far as I know.