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Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Mar 30, 8:01 am, Jim Wilkins wrote: On Mar 29, 12:16špm, Jack Linthicum wrote: ... The headquarters of the Federal Security Service, ex KGB, is above the subway station (Lubyanka) in question. Does the æÅÄÅÒÁÌØÎÁÑ ÓÌÕÖÂÁ ÂÅÚÏÐÁÓÎÏÓÔÉ still operate the notorious prison there as well? jsw That didn't come out right. FSB, Federalnaya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti. jsw Nye punemayu po Ruski ![]() Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired |
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On Mar 30, 8:14*am, Dan wrote:
Jim Wilkins wrote: On Mar 30, 8:01 am, Jim Wilkins wrote: On Mar 29, 12:16špm, Jack Linthicum wrote: ... The headquarters of the Federal Security Service, ex KGB, is above the subway station (Lubyanka) in question. Does the æÅÄÅÒÁÌØÎÁÑ ÓÌÕÖÂÁ ÂÅÚÏÐÁÓÎÏÓÔÉ still operate the notorious prison there as well? jsw That didn't come out right. FSB, Federalnaya Sluzhba Bezopasnosti. jsw * *Nye punemayu po Ruski ![]() Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired Federal Security Service, they do internal security and overseas electronic espionage, sort of an FBI-NSA combo. |
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On Mar 30, 8:05*am, William Black wrote:
dott.Piergiorgio wrote: ... mh.... what is the meaning of "illegals" here ? Intelligence officers of one country inserted into another country using false papers and expected to stay there for an extended period. William Black As opposed to cultural attaches and "passport control officials" who had a valid reason to be here, worked in embassies and consulates and had easy and secure access to diplomatic pouches. They were the higher intelligence officials, station chiefs and sometimes agent handlers. Much intelligence came from reading newspapers and intercepting radio transmissions. jsw |
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:23:00 -0500, Andrew Chaplin
wrote: Arved Sandstrom wrote in news:Bpjsn.538$Z6.368@edtnps82: Ray OHara wrote: the KGB routinely made monkey's uncles out of the western intel agencies. as for the bombers, its the legasy of the Russians taking over others countries. KGB success in _obtaining_ intelligence, such as it was, depended entirely on the willingness of useful traitors. First they were ideological traitors, then, as people wised up, they became traitors for money. But the KGB otherwise didn't exactly do anything "better" than anyone else...they had some real buffoons as agent runners from time to time. And I said "such as it was" because it transpires that the ultimate recipient of all this hard-won intelligence, the Soviet command structure, wasn't very good at interpreting it. As for Soviet counterintelligence, and the difficulties that caused Western agencies trying to operate in the fUSSR, well, that's simply what happens when running a police state. Western counterintelligence had to be considerably more sophisticated, and was. An ambitious Soviet attach made several truly inept runs at my father in the late 70s. His target likely was not my father (the senior researcher in the history directorate of DG Exec Sec) but us three kids who were then starting our careers in the CF. The KGB did not send their "A" team to Ottawa. I gues they never was the movie "The President's Analyst," eh?!?!?! :-) |
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