World's loudest airplane

"vaughn" wrote in message
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"Stu Fields" wrote in message
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First, just bring along some of those EAR foam plugs that you should find
at most any FBO shop, lose that attitude, and enjoy the airshow!

Second, I also see the changes in the EAA that you are talking about and
agree that the EAA is losing focus. Myself, I have never built an
experimental airplane and probably never will, yet I have been supporting
the EAA and occasionally attending Oshkosh for decades. Probably MOST EAA
members are more like me than like you, so the apparent drift in the EAA's
direction is not surprising.

I think that the EAA's focus should be on affordable aviation, with more
focus on encouraging local chapters than on building an Aviation
Disneyland in Oshkosh.

Vaughn

Vaughn: I know I'm getting blase about some of these airshow things. I
rarely look up anymore when some guy is tumbling his airplane all over the
sky. We've just seen it so many times. I've had all the Harrier hovers
that I want when I can do the same thing for a lot less noise and a lot less
fuel. Cavelamb said it well "Aviation Disneyland at Oshkosh". One of the
main reasons for me attending events like Oshkosh is to meet and talk to
others like me. It gets difficult if I have to wear ear plugs a large
percentage of the time. Expensive booth prices and you can't talk to
customers when the Harrier is hovering or the jets are coming by with full
afterburner.
Yes EAA has changed directions but the need for an Experimental Aviation
Association still exists. I belong to a local chapter and am amazed at the
amount of bureaucratic crap that has to go on to have a get-together of a
bunch of like-minded individuals. We've lost something valuable here.
Kathy & I produce the Experimental Helo Magazine and are finding a growing
group of people that aren't being serviced by EAA. Especially in the
Rotorcraft area.
Maybe the EAA should morph into ADLO. Aviation Disney Land Oshkosh. I like
that.

Expensive booth prices and you can't talk to
customers when the Harrier is hovering or the jets are coming by with full
afterburner.

You ought to try putting on a technical seminar and just when you get
to the hard-to-explain stuff that they need to know, those
fuel-to-noise machines come thundering by.

We've lost something valuable here.
Kathy & I produce the Experimental Helo Magazine and are finding a growing
group of people that aren't being serviced by EAA.

You must not be in the cattle business or you'd understand that EAA
has been "servicing" us for a goodly number of years.

{;-)

Jim

"Stu Fields" wrote in message
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Vaughn: I know I'm getting blase about some of these airshow things. I
rarely look up anymore when some guy is tumbling his airplane all over the
sky. We've just seen it so many times.

Yep, me too. But that issue has nothing to do with how the EAA is running
things It just means that we are getting to be old reprobates for whom nothing
is new anymore. If the airshow gets boring, or hot, or too crowded, I just go
back to the exhibits and enjoy having the place to myself.

Vaughn

"vaughn" wrote

Yep, me too. But that issue has nothing to do with how the EAA is running
things It just means that we are getting to be old reprobates for whom
nothing is new anymore. If the airshow gets boring, or hot, or too
crowded, I just go back to the exhibits and enjoy having the place to
myself.

I make use of seeing the homebuilts in the showplane parking area while the
airshow is taking place one day. I place most of my attention on the
showplanes, and look up to see parts of the airshow that are interesting.
For example, Shawn Tucker has learned some new tricks like his hovering
hanging on the prop, and also has put a new twist on some of his tumbling
maneuvers. I also still enjoy seeing a P-51 doing more than making straight
and level passes down past the crowd.

On the most part, I agree with what is being said, but I enjoy seeing all of
the new products that are introduced, and like to see all of the exceptional
craftmanship displayed by many of the homebuilders.

I have family commitments that kept me away from airventure this year, but I
still will continue going when I can.
--
Jim in NC

"Morgans" wrote in message
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"vaughn" wrote

Yep, me too. But that issue has nothing to do with how the EAA is
running things It just means that we are getting to be old reprobates
for whom nothing is new anymore. If the airshow gets boring, or hot, or
too crowded, I just go back to the exhibits and enjoy having the place to
myself.

I make use of seeing the homebuilts in the showplane parking area while
the airshow is taking place one day. I place most of my attention on the
showplanes, and look up to see parts of the airshow that are interesting.
For example, Shawn Tucker has learned some new tricks like his hovering
hanging on the prop, and also has put a new twist on some of his tumbling
maneuvers. I also still enjoy seeing a P-51 doing more than making
straight and level passes down past the crowd.

On the most part, I agree with what is being said, but I enjoy seeing all
of the new products that are introduced, and like to see all of the
exceptional craftmanship displayed by many of the homebuilders.

I have family commitments that kept me away from airventure this year, but
I still will continue going when I can.
--
Jim in NC

We've seen some changes in the years we have been covering shows for first
the PRA magazine, and now the Experimental Helo magazine. Some of the shows
have slipped away from the Airshow format with its "Smoke & Noise" and
strayed more to the Fly-In type. The advantages for them has been a big
reduction in insurance fees. The plus for us booth operators is that the
majority of the attendents are pilots or wanabees and often people involved
directly in experimental aviation. Also as Jim Weir pointed out, if we are
making a presentation we don't have to wait on the Harrier, the sonic prop
tips on the T-6s or an F-14 at full afterburner. The down side for the
organizers is a reduced attendance. It comes down to quality vs quantity
and of course the $ gets involved. Examples of this is Copper State, &
Golden West to which we are now committed because of the quality of the
attendance. We also attend two helicopter events in the mid west which if
Oshkosh went away we would still go to those. In fact if Oshkosh was two
weeks later, we would not go. Right now it is the week following a great
helicopter event in Ohio.
While the presentation of the new products is great at Oshkosh, the noise
and repetitive nature of watching the same "Impossible" maneuvers is tending
to reduce my experience. Now the "World's Noisiest Airplane" has just
about put a cap on it.