Trig TT21 Transponder ... reports?

Artificial horizons are banned because cloud flying is not permitted
in contests. It's not permitted in controlled airspace the USA at all
unless the glider is IFR equipped and the pilot has a glider
instrument rating; which is possible by the regulations, but I've not
figured out how to do the practical test! The missed approach would
be interesting.

Cloud flying in Class G airspace is technically permitted, but
probably an unwise activity.

On 8/19/2010 9:28 AM, SoaringXCellence wrote:
Artificial horizons are banned because cloud flying is not permitted
in contests. It's not permitted in controlled airspace the USA at all
unless the glider is IFR equipped and the pilot has a glider
instrument rating; which is possible by the regulations, but I've not
figured out how to do the practical test! The missed approach would
be interesting.

Cloud flying in Class G airspace is technically permitted, but
probably an unwise activity.

I can understand that cloud flying is banned, but banning an instrument
that could save your life because it might be used to violate the rules
sounds like a really crazy idea.

--
Mike Schumann

On Aug 19, 7:28*am, SoaringXCellence wrote:
and the pilot has a glider
instrument rating;

There is no such rating! Instrument airplane is required.

Andy (GY)

On Aug 19, 12:46*pm, Andy wrote:
On Aug 19, 7:28*am, SoaringXCellence wrote:

and the pilot has a glider
instrument rating;

There is no such rating! *Instrument airplane is required.

Andy (GY)

Actually, you take the practical in an airplane. Your certificate will
include glider. Specificlly, my certificate says, "Instrument
airplane, helicopter, and glider". One of the methods of maintaining
glider instrument currency is completing an "Instrument Proficency
Check" in a single engine airplane.

Charlie

On Aug 19, 10:37*am, cfinn wrote:
Specificlly, my certificate says, "Instrument
airplane, helicopter, and glider".

Please check your certificate again and post the exact wording
including all punctuation. According to the FAA database, and
assuming I found the correct person, it should say:

Commercial Pilot
Airplane Single and Multi Engine Land
Rotorcraft Helicopter
Glider
Instrument Airplane and Helicopter

There is no glider instrument rating.

Andy

On Aug 19, 7:28*am, SoaringXCellence wrote:

Cloud flying in Class G airspace is technically permitted, but
probably an unwise activity.

I would like to see the rule permitting that!

See the FAR Basic VFR Minimums:
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...4cfr91.155.htm

"Clear of Clouds" is clearly spelled out. :-)

--Noel

On 2010/08/19 7:22 PM, noel.wade wrote:
On Aug 19, 7:28 am, wrote:

Cloud flying in Class G airspace is technically permitted, but
probably an unwise activity.

I would like to see the rule permitting that!

See the FAR Basic VFR Minimums:
http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...4cfr91.155.htm

"Clear of Clouds" is clearly spelled out. :-)

--Noel

Any glider specific realxation of the VFR rule will be in your countries
Part 104. New Zealand has one, as does UK - South Africa does not - not
sure who else has one.

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On Aug 19, 10:22*am, "noel.wade" wrote:
I would like to see the rule permitting that!

See the FAR Basic VFR Minimums:http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...4cfr91.155.htm

"Clear of Clouds" is clearly spelled out. :-)

This has been beaten to death before. Instrument flying in class G
airscape is permitted with no flight plan if the plot is rated and the
aircraft is properly equipped.

VFR minima have no significance when flying IFR except that they stop
a VFR pilot from entering cloud and colliding with a pilot legally
flying on instruments.

Andy (GY/CFII)

On Aug 19, 11:20*am, Andy wrote:

VFR minima have no significance when flying IFR except that they stop
a VFR pilot from entering cloud and colliding with a pilot legally
flying on instruments.

Right. The separation of the "Class G" statement from the rest of the
paragraph about IFR flying in the original post made me think that the
comment was disconnected from the comments about IFR in a glider.
Simple misunderstanding.

--Noel

On Aug 20, 6:20*am, Andy wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:22*am, "noel.wade" wrote:

I would like to see the rule permitting that!

See the FAR Basic VFR Minimums:http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/cfr_20...4cfr91.155.htm

"Clear of Clouds" is clearly spelled out. :-)

This has been beaten to death before. Instrument flying in class G
airscape is permitted with no flight plan if the plot is rated and the
aircraft is properly equipped.

VFR minima have no significance when flying IFR except that they stop
a VFR pilot from entering cloud and colliding with a pilot legally
flying on instruments.

What prevents two such pilots legally flying on instruments from
colliding in the cloud?