ASW-12 Proto Question

So, for any that were involved with the returning of the prototype
ASW-12 from California to Germany, can you tell me a bit about the
trailer the plane was in for shipping back to Germany? Did the
glider load into the trailer over the tongue, or in the more
conventional way, through the back of the trailer? Was the trailer
still a canvas covered box, or had it been skinned with metal? The
plane was de-registered from the US in 2005.

Sort of working a little history project. Any information would be
appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Steve Leonard

On Mar 14, 9:53*pm, Steve Leonard wrote:
So, for any that were involved with the returning of the prototype
ASW-12 from California to Germany, can you tell me a bit about the
trailer the plane was in for shipping back to Germany? * Did the
glider load into the trailer over the tongue, or in the more
conventional way, through the back of the trailer? *Was the trailer
still a canvas covered box, or had it been skinned with metal? *The
plane was de-registered from the US in 2005.

Sort of working a little history project. *Any information would be
appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Steve Leonard

Looking to add to your "harem", Steve?

C'mon! You know the answer to that question.
Jim

On Mar 15, 6:43*am, Dan Marotta wrote:

Looking to add to your "harem", Steve?

On Mar 14, 8:53*pm, Steve Leonard wrote:
So, for any that were involved with the returning of the prototype
ASW-12 from California to Germany, can you tell me a bit about the
trailer the plane was in for shipping back to Germany? * Did the
glider load into the trailer over the tongue, or in the more
conventional way, through the back of the trailer? *Was the trailer
still a canvas covered box, or had it been skinned with metal? *The
plane was de-registered from the US in 2005.

Sort of working a little history project. *Any information would be
appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

Steve Leonard


The original factory trailers I have seen in pictures were front-load
and canvas covered.

Just so we are clear, I will murder anyone who crashes S/N 12012 due
to incompetence and survives the accident.... Just Say'in......

And for historic corrrectness:

it is AS-W12 NOT ASW-12

Just so we are clear, I will murder anyone who crashes S/N 12012 due
to incompetence and survives the accident.... *Just Say'in......

Why? I thought there were busted quite frequently when they were new.

As to the name, Alexander Schleicher lists the glider as "ASW 12"
which is the same naming convention as used for all the ASx gliders
since then. No dash anywhere in the name. FAA seems to have an
abhorance of the space and has to put a dash somewhere but that
doesn't make it the real designation of the glider.

Andy

On Mar 15, 12:59*pm, Andy wrote:
Just so we are clear, I will murder anyone who crashes S/N 12012 due
to incompetence and survives the accident.... *Just Say'in......

Why? *I thought there were busted quite frequently when they were new.


It might have something to do with the 2-3000 man-hours I put intoit's
better-than-new, museum quality total restoration / modification.

Didn't one person think that glider would best be dealt with using a
box of matches?
I witnessed the rebuild from paint scrapers and a belt sander to
rigging and blasting up the Sierra Nevada.
Couldn't believe it when Gerhard referred to the design as "a mistake
of my youth".
Jim

On Mar 15, 2:00*pm, " wrote:

It might have something to do with the 2-3000 man-hours I put intoit's
better-than-new, museum quality total restoration / modification.

Couldn't believe it when Gerhard referred to the design as "a mistake
of my youth".

Why not? It came from a period where performance was the primary
design goal and safety was a distant second. I'm a Schleicher owner
because they changed that philosophy.

Hope it's going to a museum.

Andy

Sorry about my mistake in the ID, Mark. I am sure that sort of thing
grates on some people just like poor Harland Ross suffering through
people calling his R-6 "The RJ-6".

And, yes, Andy. The prototype AS-W 12 (or ASW12) is in the Soaring
Museum at the Wasserkuppe. Right next to D-36 V2, Glasflugel BS1
serial 3, and I bleive there is also a Phoenix near by.

My question stems from two gliders and two trailers and how I suspect
the gliders traded trailers, so the trailer that is still here use to
house the original 12. And trying to make sure the trailer gets
preserved and not chopped up for holding another plane.

As to it being "a mistake of my youth", Gerhard, you are forgiven.
The sailplane was built for all out performance. The glide path
variation issue has been resolved by creative owners and probably some
help from Schleicher, so all is good.

Steve Leonard