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Old April 9th 11, 12:34 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Darryl Ramm
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On Apr 8, 4:10*pm, jsbrake wrote:
Its possible to root hack the Nook now and run Android 2.2 (and maybe
3.0) on it and should be able to install the current XCSoar Android
software and see if it works. I believe there is supposed to be an
official upgrade to Android 2.2 coming for the Nook which should make
this easier. Anybody tried XCSoar on the Nook?


Perhaps a foolish question, but since the Nook Color doesn't have a
GPS, how are you thinking of getting the GPS signal? *I found that
there's an app called tetherGPS, but that uses an Android smartphone
to transmit over wi-fi to the Nook. *Is there a way to feed the GPS
directly into the nook from another GPS source? *Could it, somehow, be
connected to a PowerFLARM?



The Color Nook has Bluetooth hardware and enabling that and the
required SPP (serial over Bluetooth) is just a matter of software. If
that support is not in the common Android 2.2 root hack then it _may_
be in the official Android 2.2 update that is supposedly coming to the
Color Nook. Once you have BT SSP support in the operating system the
rest should be easy. And ideally applications that know how to use
this (like XCSoar) should in principle just work. Once you have
Bluetooth you can go out to those low cost Bluetooth GPS receivers or
via a Bluetooth adapter (like the K6-BT) to a PowerFLARM etc. Of
course my hand waving and seeing it all work are two different things.

BTW another nook root hack resource for the color Nook is
http://nookdevs.com/Portal:NookColor

I just ordered a iPad 2 but the inner geek in me is thinking of
getting a Moto Xoom as well since I want to play more with Android.


Darryl
  #2  
Old April 9th 11, 03:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
jsbrake[_2_]
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I just ordered a iPad 2 but the inner geek in me is thinking of
getting a Moto Xoom as well since I want to play more with Android.


My wife loves her iPad 2 (I braved the lines on opening day in
Canada), but I have an aversion the thing. My inner geek wants a
Notion Ink Adam, but in 7" format... however my inner geek is being
beaten up the harsh reality of 1 child in college and 2 more close
behind, plus a wife that loves to spend my sailplane money on
travelling to places where I can't take my sailplane.

Perhaps I can con her into getting me a Nook Color if the BT
connection works to the PowerFLARM.
  #3  
Old April 9th 11, 04:14 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike Schumann
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On 4/8/2011 7:34 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Apr 8, 4:10 pm, wrote:
Its possible to root hack the Nook now and run Android 2.2 (and maybe
3.0) on it and should be able to install the current XCSoar Android
software and see if it works. I believe there is supposed to be an
official upgrade to Android 2.2 coming for the Nook which should make
this easier. Anybody tried XCSoar on the Nook?


Perhaps a foolish question, but since the Nook Color doesn't have a
GPS, how are you thinking of getting the GPS signal? I found that
there's an app called tetherGPS, but that uses an Android smartphone
to transmit over wi-fi to the Nook. Is there a way to feed the GPS
directly into the nook from another GPS source? Could it, somehow, be
connected to a PowerFLARM?



The Color Nook has Bluetooth hardware and enabling that and the
required SPP (serial over Bluetooth) is just a matter of software. If
that support is not in the common Android 2.2 root hack then it _may_
be in the official Android 2.2 update that is supposedly coming to the
Color Nook. Once you have BT SSP support in the operating system the
rest should be easy. And ideally applications that know how to use
this (like XCSoar) should in principle just work. Once you have
Bluetooth you can go out to those low cost Bluetooth GPS receivers or
via a Bluetooth adapter (like the K6-BT) to a PowerFLARM etc. Of
course my hand waving and seeing it all work are two different things.

BTW another nook root hack resource for the color Nook is
http://nookdevs.com/Portal:NookColor

I just ordered a iPad 2 but the inner geek in me is thinking of
getting a Moto Xoom as well since I want to play more with Android.


Darryl

The Nook Color also has a USB interface, which might be another way to
connect the required GPS receiver.

--
Mike Schumann
  #4  
Old April 9th 11, 04:31 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Darryl Ramm
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On Apr 8, 8:14*pm, Mike Schumann
wrote:
On 4/8/2011 7:34 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:







On Apr 8, 4:10 pm, *wrote:
Its possible to root hack the Nook now and run Android 2.2 (and maybe
3.0) on it and should be able to install the current XCSoar Android
software and see if it works. I believe there is supposed to be an
official upgrade to Android 2.2 coming for the Nook which should make
this easier. Anybody tried XCSoar on the Nook?


Perhaps a foolish question, but since the Nook Color doesn't have a
GPS, how are you thinking of getting the GPS signal? *I found that
there's an app called tetherGPS, but that uses an Android smartphone
to transmit over wi-fi to the Nook. *Is there a way to feed the GPS
directly into the nook from another GPS source? *Could it, somehow, be
connected to a PowerFLARM?


The Color Nook has Bluetooth hardware and enabling that and the
required SPP (serial over Bluetooth) is just a matter of software. If
that support is not in the common Android 2.2 root hack then it _may_
be in the official Android 2.2 update that is supposedly coming to the
Color Nook. Once you have BT SSP support in the operating system the
rest should be easy. And ideally applications that know how to use
this (like XCSoar) should in principle just work. Once you have
Bluetooth you can go out to those low cost Bluetooth GPS receivers or
via a Bluetooth adapter (like the K6-BT) to a PowerFLARM etc. Of
course my hand waving and seeing it all work are two different things.


BTW another nook root hack resource for the color Nook is
http://nookdevs.com/Portal:NookColor


I just ordered a iPad 2 but the inner geek in me is thinking of
getting a Moto Xoom as well since I want to play more with Android.


Darryl


The Nook Color also has a USB interface, which might be another way to
connect the required GPS receiver.

--
Mike Schumann


The Color Nook as shipped is USB client only but it apparently has
chipset support for Bluetooth On-The-Go (i.e. client/host switching).
I don't think this is working yet with any of the root hacked Android
versions. But if the BT OTG support is really there then yes this is a
possibility. If its client only then it won't work. Still the first
step now would be for somebody to just try out XCSoar on Android 2.2
on this platform, you don't need a physical GPS to do a test.

Darryl
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Old April 12th 11, 10:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Cliff Hilty[_4_]
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t 03:31 09 April 2011, Darryl Ramm wrote:
On Apr 8, 8:14=A0pm, Mike Schumann
wrote:
On 4/8/2011 7:34 PM, Darryl Ramm wrote:







On Apr 8, 4:10 pm, jsbrake =A0wrote:
Its possible to root hack the Nook now and run Android 2.2 (and

mayb=
e
3.0) on it and should be able to install the current XCSoar

Android
software and see if it works. I believe there is supposed to be

an
official upgrade to Android 2.2 coming for the Nook which should

mak=
e
this easier. Anybody tried XCSoar on the Nook?


Perhaps a foolish question, but since the Nook Color doesn't have

a
GPS, how are you thinking of getting the GPS signal? =A0I found

that
there's an app called tetherGPS, but that uses an Android

smartphone
to transmit over wi-fi to the Nook. =A0Is there a way to feed the

GPS
directly into the nook from another GPS source? =A0Could it,

somehow,
=
be
connected to a PowerFLARM?


The Color Nook has Bluetooth hardware and enabling that and the
required SPP (serial over Bluetooth) is just a matter of software.

If
that support is not in the common Android 2.2 root hack then it

_may_
be in the official Android 2.2 update that is supposedly coming to

the
Color Nook. Once you have BT SSP support in the operating system the
rest should be easy. And ideally applications that know how to use
this (like XCSoar) should in principle just work. Once you have
Bluetooth you can go out to those low cost Bluetooth GPS receivers

or
via a Bluetooth adapter (like the K6-BT) to a PowerFLARM etc. Of
course my hand waving and seeing it all work are two different

things.

BTW another nook root hack resource for the color Nook is
http://nookdevs.com/Portal:NookColor


I just ordered a iPad 2 but the inner geek in me is thinking of
getting a Moto Xoom as well since I want to play more with Android.


Darryl


The Nook Color also has a USB interface, which might be another way to
connect the required GPS receiver.

--
Mike Schumann


The Color Nook as shipped is USB client only but it apparently has
chipset support for Bluetooth On-The-Go (i.e. client/host switching).
I don't think this is working yet with any of the root hacked Android
versions. But if the BT OTG support is really there then yes this is a
possibility. If its client only then it won't work. Still the first
step now would be for somebody to just try out XCSoar on Android 2.2
on this platform, you don't need a physical GPS to do a test.

Darryl



No inner geek here, but I did download XCsoar and custom map for my Droid
X which is running 2.2 Android and it seems to run fine. I haven't done
any flying with it yet (I have a SN10 in the glider) because I don't have
any way of mounting or powering it. The droid really eats batteries

CH


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Old April 13th 11, 12:00 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Tuno
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Cliff:

I have a ram air turbine you can use to power your Droid. I'll put it
on your glider this weekend!

tuN7o
  #7  
Old April 13th 11, 04:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Cliff Hilty[_2_]
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At 23:00 12 April 2011, Tuno wrote:
Cliff:

I have a ram air turbine you can use to power your Droid. I'll put it
on your glider this weekend!

tuN7o


Not wanting to hijack the thread, but I want a small air turbine that will
fit into the scoop vent in the window that would supply charging power to
my batteries. As much 100+ knot flying and outside temps in the 100+ that
we have out here I could have a surplus and never need to charge my
batteries

How about it Bumper, Do I see a high tech Quiet Vent 6 out there?

CH

  #8  
Old April 13th 11, 07:19 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
bildan
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On Apr 13, 9:51*am, Cliff Hilty
wrote:
At 23:00 12 April 2011, Tuno wrote:

Cliff:


I have a ram air turbine you can use to power your Droid. I'll put it
on your glider this weekend!


tuN7o


Not wanting to hijack the thread, but I want a small air turbine that will
fit into the scoop vent in the window that would supply charging power to
my batteries. As much 100+ knot flying and outside temps in the 100+ that
we have out here I could have a surplus and never need to charge my
batteries

How about it Bumper, Do I see a high tech Quiet Vent 6 out there?

CH


Better idea: Piezoelectric materials to generate power from wing
flexing or a Faraday device like this: http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:M2E_Power
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Old April 13th 11, 07:22 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Eric Greenwell[_4_]
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On 4/13/2011 8:51 AM, Cliff Hilty wrote:
At 23:00 12 April 2011, Tuno wrote:
Cliff:

I have a ram air turbine you can use to power your Droid. I'll put it
on your glider this weekend!

tuN7o


Not wanting to hijack the thread, but I want a small air turbine that will
fit into the scoop vent in the window that would supply charging power to
my batteries. As much 100+ knot flying and outside temps in the 100+ that
we have out here I could have a surplus and never need to charge my
batteries

How about it Bumper, Do I see a high tech Quiet Vent 6 out there?


That's a silly idea, because it adds drag and would ruin the L/D;
instead, connect the generator to the rudder pedals. The way I fan my
rudder, that would run a radio, vario, GPS, ClearNav, transponder, MRX,
and more. :^]

--
Eric Greenwell - Washington State, USA (change ".netto" to ".us" to
email me)
- "Transponders in Sailplanes - Feb/2010" also ADS-B, PCAS, Flarm
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