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Old February 18th 04, 10:57 PM
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Hmmm. According to the USAF aircraft database, F-106A 56-0467 was last
assigned to the 329th FIS at George AFB, Ca and was destroyed in a class
A accident on 14 August 1961. The aircraft on display at USAFA is
58-0761. 0467 seems to have flown in squadron service for quite awhile
after making its speed run - not bad for an aircraft that's rumored to
have had its structure damaged.


Mach 2.3 was normal operating speed in the squadron I worked for. Our
people believed the F-106 was aerodynamicly limited to that speed.


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Old February 19th 04, 01:14 AM
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote


Mach 2.3 was normal operating speed in the squadron I worked for. Our
people believed the F-106 was aerodynamicly limited to that speed.


"normal operating speed"
Where was the normal AO?

Pete


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Old February 19th 04, 01:17 AM
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote


Mach 2.3 was normal operating speed in the squadron I worked for. Our
people believed the F-106 was aerodynamicly limited to that speed.


"normal operating speed"
Where was the normal AO?


Going mach 2.3 in an F-106 does not harm the airplane.

Going much faster than mach 2.3 is not an option in an intact F-106.


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Old February 19th 04, 03:04 AM
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Pete" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote


Mach 2.3 was normal operating speed in the squadron I worked for. Our
people believed the F-106 was aerodynamicly limited to that speed.


"normal operating speed"
Where was the normal AO?


Going mach 2.3 in an F-106 does not harm the airplane.

Going much faster than mach 2.3 is not an option in an intact F-106.


I don't question the -106 speed, but rather where they were doing it as part
of "normal operations"

Pete


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Old February 19th 04, 07:08 AM
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"Pete" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Pete" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote


Mach 2.3 was normal operating speed in the squadron I worked for.

Our
people believed the F-106 was aerodynamicly limited to that speed.

"normal operating speed"
Where was the normal AO?


Going mach 2.3 in an F-106 does not harm the airplane.

Going much faster than mach 2.3 is not an option in an intact F-106.


I don't question the -106 speed, but rather where they were doing it as

part
of "normal operations"


Question anything the Tarvernaut spouts. While some sources indicate a max
speed at altitude for the F-106 as being M2.3, the 319th FIS association's
website indicates it was actually a little bit below that (M2.25). And that
is the *max* speed--so his assertion that the F-106 normally operated at its
absolute max is crap. Now is about the time the Tarvernaut comes forth with
his, "Our F-106's were actually tasked to perform nuclear strike missions
with "optical nukes", and carried the AIM-7 Sparrow...", etc. All of which
is complete and utter hogwash, of course. But I suspect you may already know
this, and are just engaged in a bit of tail-twisting-of-the-Tarvernaut
here...

Brooks


Pete




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Old February 20th 04, 02:18 AM
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ISTR Atlantic City-based 106s doing a lot of flying over the ocean, where
going to Mach 1+ was a normal occurence. Not sure if they passed 2 very
often, but it is possible. A lot of their flying was escorting Tu-95s and
other planes up the coast, which they often did in relays with other
National Guard squadrons.

Dave


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Old February 19th 04, 03:26 PM
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"Pete" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote in message
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"Pete" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote


Mach 2.3 was normal operating speed in the squadron I worked for.

Our
people believed the F-106 was aerodynamicly limited to that speed.

"normal operating speed"
Where was the normal AO?


Going mach 2.3 in an F-106 does not harm the airplane.

Going much faster than mach 2.3 is not an option in an intact F-106.


I don't question the -106 speed, but rather where they were doing it as

part
of "normal operations"


Our F-106s flew to Santa Barbara, air refueled, flew to 55,000 feet and then
headed for the Bearing Straight to meet their Soviet counterparts. Nose
down from 55,000 feet can make a lot of speed.


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Old February 19th 04, 03:54 PM
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Our F-106s flew to Santa Barbara, air refueled, flew to 55,000 feet and then
headed for the Bearing Straight to meet their Soviet counterparts. Nose
down from 55,000 feet can make a lot of speed.


Christ John!...it's Bering Strait...you sound so careless, aren't
you concerned with what people think of you?
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-Gord.
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Old February 19th 04, 04:27 PM
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"Tarver Engineering" wrote:


Our F-106s flew to Santa Barbara, air refueled, flew to 55,000 feet and

then
headed for the Bearing Straight to meet their Soviet counterparts. Nose
down from 55,000 feet can make a lot of speed.


Christ John!...it's Bering Strait...you sound so careless, aren't
you concerned with what people think of you?


Did you understand what I wrote Gord?


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Old February 19th 04, 08:56 PM
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From: "Gord Beaman"

"Tarver Engineering" wrote:


Our F-106s flew to Santa Barbara, air refueled, flew to 55,000 feet and then
headed for the Bearing Straight to meet their Soviet counterparts. Nose
down from 55,000 feet can make a lot of speed.


Christ John!...it's Bering Strait...you sound so careless, aren't
you concerned with what people think of you?
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-Gord.

Just don't ask him why the California Guard sixes he was working on were
intercepting Soviet aircraft in Alaskan airpsace when there were aircraft in
Alaska just for that purpose.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
 




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