Lumbar support ideas?

On Jun 16, 1:51*pm, "noel.wade" wrote:
All -

For the third year in a row I've somehow managed to injure my back
early in the season (base of the spine/sciatic nerve). *I'm beginning
to suspect its not my day-job or rigging my ship (I have a one-man
rigger); but rather my flying and seating position in the cockpit
(DG-300). *Short early-season flights don't seem to cause a problem;
but a couple of long flights in a row (or a long drive in the car + a
long flight the same day) may be what's touching it off... *Its
getting VERY frustrating to be bed-ridden for a couple of days (at age
33)!

So while I get going with physical therapy (again) and meds (again),
I'm thinking about ways to change my cockpit and take pressure off the
base of my spine. *I've already added some seat-foam; the only other
thing I can think of is to try not to have my spine bent in such a "U"
shape.

Anyone out there have suggestions on creating a lumbar support pad?
As I understand it, the pad should sit between the parachute and my
back (not between the 'chute and the seatback). *Tips or ideas would
be greatly appreciated!

--Noel

When you are flying, likely you feel some strain if the seating is the
issue.
I use a pad made from conforfoam that is about 1 inch thick and 6
inches "tall" witha second layer about 3 inches tall.
I position it right in the lumbar area of my back between my back and
the chute. It gives good support bt won't collapse in a hard impact. A
simple cover and some Velcro can make it more convenient.
I can get in the glider with a slightly sore back and feel better when
I get out 3 or 4 hours later.
You might want to experiment with a simple pad made from a rolled up
towel to get a sense of what size and shape you need.
Good Luck
UH

Hi,

I agree with the suggestion below about CONFOR foam and a cushion for lower
back support. One cool thing about it is that you can cut it with a sharp
knife or even scissors and you can shape it with sanding paper (especially
when it is cold and hard) - so you can make a nice, smooth cushion of
varying thickness.

I sell it in several sizes and hardnesses he
http://www.cumulus-soaring.com/e-a-r.htm

Best Regards,

Paul Remde
Cumulus Soaring, Inc.

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On Jun 16, 1:51 pm, "noel.wade" wrote:
All -

For the third year in a row I've somehow managed to injure my back
early in the season (base of the spine/sciatic nerve). I'm beginning
to suspect its not my day-job or rigging my ship (I have a one-man
rigger); but rather my flying and seating position in the cockpit
(DG-300). Short early-season flights don't seem to cause a problem;
but a couple of long flights in a row (or a long drive in the car + a
long flight the same day) may be what's touching it off... Its
getting VERY frustrating to be bed-ridden for a couple of days (at age
33)!

So while I get going with physical therapy (again) and meds (again),
I'm thinking about ways to change my cockpit and take pressure off the
base of my spine. I've already added some seat-foam; the only other
thing I can think of is to try not to have my spine bent in such a "U"
shape.

Anyone out there have suggestions on creating a lumbar support pad?
As I understand it, the pad should sit between the parachute and my
back (not between the 'chute and the seatback). Tips or ideas would
be greatly appreciated!

--Noel

When you are flying, likely you feel some strain if the seating is the
issue.
I use a pad made from conforfoam that is about 1 inch thick and 6
inches "tall" witha second layer about 3 inches tall.
I position it right in the lumbar area of my back between my back and
the chute. It gives good support bt won't collapse in a hard impact. A
simple cover and some Velcro can make it more convenient.
I can get in the glider with a slightly sore back and feel better when
I get out 3 or 4 hours later.
You might want to experiment with a simple pad made from a rolled up
towel to get a sense of what size and shape you need.
Good Luck
UH

I agree with the suggestion below about CONFOR foam and a cushion for lower
back support. *One cool thing about it is that you can cut it with a sharp
knife or even scissors and you can shape it with sanding paper (especially
when it is cold and hard) - so you can make a nice, smooth cushion of
varying thickness.

The weapon of choice for foam sculpting is an electric kitchen knife,
usually available for less than a buck at your local thrift shop...

-p

I also have back issues from time to time. For me they are triggered
during rigging. I need a self rigger I guess.

I assume you wear a parachute. The trick is to get some lumbar
support between the chute and you. It doesn't do much good between
the chute and the glider.

After buying a used Strong parachute model 305, I sent it to the
factory for an inspection and repack. During that work, Strong
retrofitted a lumbar support cushion into my parachute harness. Very
nice and has made flying much more comfortable. I don't know if this
is available separately nor if it will help you. The support is
mentioned on this page but I don't see any details.
http://www.strongparachutes.com/page...5_Airplane.php.

Basically, the Strong item looks very much like this =
http://www.autosportcatalog.com/seat...rt-cushion.cfm.
$30 with memory foam. You may want to try an auto parts store or
Walmart to find something like this and see if that helps. The Strong
item has a strap meant to hold it in place on the chute which you
might have to retrofit.

Good luck.

- John DeRosa

I fly with an inflatable back cushion. What's nice about it is that
you can inflate it to different sizes and thus vary the pressure on
your lower back. I do have to remember when getting into the cockpit
to have the bulb handy and not underneath...

Juan


On Jun 16, 9:03*pm, ContestID67 wrote:
I also have back issues from time to time. *For me they are triggered
during rigging. *I need a self rigger I guess.

I assume you wear a parachute. *The trick is to get some lumbar
support between the chute and you. *It doesn't do much good between
the chute and the glider.

After buying a used Strong parachute model 305, I sent it to the
factory for an inspection and repack. *During that work, Strong
retrofitted a lumbar support cushion into my parachute harness. *Very
nice and has made flying much more comfortable. *I don't know if this
is available separately nor if it will help you. *The support is
mentioned on this page but I don't see any details.http://www.strongparachutes.com/page...5_Airplane.php.

Basically, the Strong item looks very much like this =http://www.autosportcatalog.com/seat...r-support/auto....
$30 with memory foam. * *You may want to try an auto parts store or
Walmart to find something like this and see if that helps. *The Strong
item has a strap meant to hold it in place on the chute which you
might have to retrofit.

Good luck.

- John DeRosa

I assume you wear a parachute. The trick is to get some lumbar
support between the chute and you. It doesn't do much good between
the chute and the glider.

I've tried the support between my back and the chute in my 19 but now
use a small rolled towel between the chute and the seat back in my
28.

In my experience between the chute and the glider is very effective.
The best solution for me would be to make a fixed modification to the
seat back.

Andy

I have an Irving (GQ) parachute and one of the optional extras with the
chute is an inflatable lumbar pad which fits onto velcro strips on the
parachute back. The beauty of the system is that you can fit the pad in
exactly the right place and it won't move or get dislodged. It is
inflated using the squeeze bulb used on blood pressure monitors. Works a
treat.
I had an injury many years back to the lumbar 4/5 joint which causes pain
to the sciatic nerve. I have discovered over the years that the worst
thing you can do is keep still. The only thing I won't do while the pain
is severe is fly.

After a few hours, my lumbar would be killing me. I use a 1" memory
foam (firm) between back and parachute but needed something more
beneath the lumbar area.
Just before my 9 hr. flight to GA, I forgot to rig something and had
the wife shove my canopy cover into a small sack and place behind my
lumbar before clipping into my parachute.
At first it seemed a little overboard but as it compress within 30
mins of flying, I had the most comfortable flight ever and not a pain
in the 9 hrs. That was in 08 and cover still gets shoved there
everytime I fly and still works.
That said, experiment and allow for compression into the comfort zone.
One thing to consider.....what will happen in a accident I have no
clue and I could be risking additional injury. I just don't know. I
fly for hours with no pain, that I know.
R

On Thursday, June 16, 2011 at 4:34:02 PM UTC-7, sisu1a wrote:
I agree with the suggestion below about CONFOR foam and a cushion for lower
back support. Â*One cool thing about it is that you can cut it with a sharp
knife or even scissors and you can shape it with sanding paper (especially
when it is cold and hard) - so you can make a nice, smooth cushion of
varying thickness.

The weapon of choice for foam sculpting is an electric kitchen knife,
usually available for less than a buck at your local thrift shop...

-p

or a soldering iron....

you can find memory foam lumbar supports directed at office workers on
line at reasonable prices.

I have a similar to DG cockpit, (Apis), and that settled all my back
issues for long flights.

mj