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On Jul 13, 7:21*am, "kirk.stant" wrote:
On Jul 12, 12:03*pm, Papa3 wrote: On Jul 12, 11:10*am, Berry wrote: Andy The pilot that was fatally injured was reportedly a CFIG. The pilot that was seriously injured was a glider DPE. It's been reported that it was gusty. The commercial operation was in its first year of operation from this airfield, which I'm told is tight and tree-lined. No other info. Sorry, replied to the wrong post. *My comments are in response to the Montana accident of last Friday. Frank Whiteley Low altitude maneuvers in gusty conditions in a 2-32. Gives me chills to think of it. *2-32's are fun to fly but they are unforgiving b-stards if you get low and slow. Both the accidents being discussed involved gliders with reputations for spinning in. Was about to post the same thing. * *Was pondering this very issue whilst giving 2-32 rides for the local FBO this weekend. * *I don't think I'd even contemplate a return to the runway from less than 300 feet in that bird at max gross unless we had TONS of extra airspeed. * *As mentioned elswhere, there are so many variables to this that each flight requires its own plan. P3 Several years ago I had PTT at around 200ft while giving a ride in a 2-32. *No problem making a smooth steep turn back and rolling back to the start point. *The old beast keeps energy well (it should!) so as long as you don't waste time, and don't stall in the turn (you'll only do that once down low in a 2-32...) it's not bad. It helps to have smart tow pilots who tow nice and fast - there was absolutely no need to lower the nose! Do the math about turn rate vs sink rate - 200' is more a psychological barrier. *Practice in a sim helps here, since you can play "what ifs" and see the results. Best glider Schweizer ever made, IMO. Kirk 66 BTDT. IIRC the 2-32's front seat occupant was a Delta captain. At ~200 AGL it went like this... What's this gizmo do? Bang! Ooops! |
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