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Old November 5th 03, 01:15 PM
sean trost
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Just a Thought but do not most of all "flight-seeing" operations
originate and terminate at an airport ?
hmmmnnnn.
Sean

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Old November 5th 03, 02:52 PM
Ron Natalie
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"sean trost" wrote in message ...

Just a Thought but do not most of all "flight-seeing" operations
originate and terminate at an airport ?


They must originate and terminate at the same airport and not go beyond
25 miles of that airport.


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Old November 5th 03, 03:10 PM
C J Campbell
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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| "sean trost" wrote in message
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| Just a Thought but do not most of all "flight-seeing" operations
| originate and terminate at an airport ?
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| They must originate and terminate at the same airport and not go beyond
| 25 miles of that airport.

They must also not land at any other airport.


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Old November 5th 03, 03:38 PM
Eric Miller
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"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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| "sean trost" wrote in message
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| Just a Thought but do not most of all "flight-seeing" operations
| originate and terminate at an airport ?
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| They must originate and terminate at the same airport and not go beyond
| 25 miles of that airport.

They must also not land at any other airport.


Oh, well that's different, that just sounds like regular "you can't fly
someone from point A to point B for recompense on just a Private
certificate"

Eric


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Old November 5th 03, 03:44 PM
Ron Natalie
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"Eric Miller" wrote in message t...

Oh, well that's different, that just sounds like regular "you can't fly
someone from point A to point B for recompense on just a Private
certificate"


It's got nothing to do with that. You can't even fly someone from point
A to Point A for recompense on a private certificate.

You can't fly sightseeing (other than this local exception) with a comercial
pilot certificate either UNLESS you have a comercial operators certificate
issued under one of the Part 119-related sections.


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Old November 5th 03, 03:54 PM
Eric Miller
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"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
m...

"Eric Miller" wrote in message

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Oh, well that's different, that just sounds like regular "you can't fly
someone from point A to point B for recompense on just a Private
certificate"


It's got nothing to do with that. You can't even fly someone from point
A to Point A for recompense on a private certificate.


Fair enough, money and private certifcate are mutually exclusive except for
fair cost sharing.
And of course, money is always allowed to hemorrage OUT of your pocket!


You can't fly sightseeing (other than this local exception) with a

comercial
pilot certificate either UNLESS you have a comercial operators certificate
issued under one of the Part 119-related sections.


Still, cancelling exemptions for charities and not-for-profit organizations
doesn't sound productive (if I read this correctly)

Eric


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Old November 5th 03, 04:36 PM
C J Campbell
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"Eric Miller" wrote in message
t...
| "Ron Natalie" wrote in message
| m...
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| "Eric Miller" wrote in message
| t...
|
| Oh, well that's different, that just sounds like regular "you can't
fly
| someone from point A to point B for recompense on just a Private
| certificate"
|
| It's got nothing to do with that. You can't even fly someone from
point
| A to Point A for recompense on a private certificate.
|
| Fair enough, money and private certifcate are mutually exclusive except
for
| fair cost sharing.
| And of course, money is always allowed to hemorrage OUT of your pocket!
|
|
| You can't fly sightseeing (other than this local exception) with a
| comercial
| pilot certificate either UNLESS you have a comercial operators
certificate
| issued under one of the Part 119-related sections.
|
| Still, cancelling exemptions for charities and not-for-profit
organizations
| doesn't sound productive (if I read this correctly)
|

You do read it correctly, but until now any commercial pilot could (and did)
fly sightseeing flights. Now you will have to register as a type of airline
(an air tour operator), which will increase costs enormously and make
flightseeing almost impossibly expensive. Those biplane rides you used to be
able to get at airports you visit would be gone. Forever. Hiring a CFI to
show you around the local area would be gone. No more flights on the
Tri-Motor or Aluminum Overcast.

The only flightseeing would be expensive rides on organized trips in
airplanes like the Caravan. Nothing else would be cost effective.


 




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