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Old September 27th 11, 08:49 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Smith
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Default Artificial Horizon – HELP!

It depends on what you want it for. If you're planning to do intentional
serious cloud flying, then you should be aware that none of the devices
you've mentioned is TSOed. Legal issues aside, I wouldn't put my life in
the hands of a device of which I don't exactly know how reliably it
performs.

If however you're just looking for a safety device, then probably all of
them will let you to keep the wings level. You could also consider to
buy a used T&B (the classic form, not a turn coordinator!). These speed
up reasonably fast, are extremely reliable and deal fine with any
attitude. You'd need some training, though, to be safe with a T&B.
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Old September 27th 11, 08:55 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
weersch[_2_]
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Default Artificial Horizon – HELP!

Check out LK8000
Build in Turn and Bank.
Best thing: It's free.
See manual at page 81
http://www.bware.it/LK8000/LK_8000_22_Handbuch.pdf

Of course not suitable for intentional cloud flying as already
mentioned in other postings.





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Old September 27th 11, 09:32 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
PCool
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Default Artificial Horizon - HELP!

Please do not confuse the fake TRI (turn rate indicator) in LK8000 with a
real Horizon.
The fake TRI is (as well explained in the manual):
1) Late in response, 1-2 seconds
2) Wrong when wind is not correctly inserted or previously calculated
3) It is using the GPS data for the heading, and thus if GPS is loosing the
fix, it won't work

I personally think that - for us with no Artificial Horizon aboard - there
are times when we get caught inside a cloud that before going into panic
switching to the TRI page is better than nothing. But I would consider it as
the last of resources.
Nevertheless, I thank the author who did it in the xcsoar project still some
years ago, John Wharington probably.
LK only reused that part of the code in fact.

paolo


"weersch" ha scritto nel messaggio
...
Check out LK8000
Build in Turn and Bank.
Best thing: It's free.
See manual at page 81
http://www.bware.it/LK8000/LK_8000_22_Handbuch.pdf

Of course not suitable for intentional cloud flying as already
mentioned in other postings.

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Old September 28th 11, 12:21 AM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bill D
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Default Artificial Horizon – HELP!

On Sep 27, 1:49*pm, John Smith wrote:
It depends on what you want it for. If you're planning to do intentional
serious cloud flying, then you should be aware that none of the devices
you've mentioned is TSOed. Legal issues aside, I wouldn't put my life in
the hands of a device of which I don't exactly know how reliably it
performs.

If however you're just looking for a safety device, then probably all of
them will let you to keep the wings level. You could also consider to
buy a used T&B (the classic form, not a turn coordinator!). These speed
up reasonably fast, are extremely reliable and deal fine with any
attitude. You'd need some training, though, to be safe with a T&B.


Don't get too enthralled with TSO'd devices. It's little more than
the FAA's "good housekeeping seal". A fair percentage of airplanes
routinely doing "hard IFR" have non-TSO'd gyro instruments installed.

A TSO simply means the manufacturer submitted paperwork showing the
device met the minimum standards for a functional device. I've had
more reliability problems with TSO'd instruments than the other
variety or about a 400 hour time-to-failure. I had so many gyro
failures over the years, I kept Sporty's black suction cup disks in
the side pocket to cover failing instruments. The only real safety
"device" is very good partial panel skills.

From what I hear, Dynon instruments are far better than those TSO'd
gyros.
 




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