Is it easier now?

"D. Strang" wrote in message
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"ArtKramr" wrote

We were trained to iron discipline and obedience to orders.

There were very few enlisted troops with high school diplomas, and those
commissioned sometimes only had a couple of years, and no degree in WW#2.

The price of paid later for a sloppy momma's boy military is now well
documented. Sadly.

Not true. There were more people killed in WW#2 from accidents than
combat. The first thing that happened after Monty hit the beach in
Sicily, was a wave of US bombers out of Libya bombed the **** out of
them. I'd call that sloppy, and probably ****ing stupid.

Hey, what about Malmedy? It was bad enough that Pieper pulled the machine
gunning of PW's, but you also had the USAAF (inluding one raid by Art's
beloved B-26's) hit the town not once but *twice* while it was in allied
hands! Strangely, this would have been during the time when Art has claimed
he was sent forward to man the trenches--now why would the USAAF have sent a
bombadier forward to do that instead of manning his aircraft? One wonders
how proficient ol' Art really was at his specialty if that was the case...

Brooks

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"D. Strang" wrote in message
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"ArtKramr" wrote

We were trained to iron discipline and obedience to orders.

There were very few enlisted troops with high school diplomas, and those
commissioned sometimes only had a couple of years, and no degree in
WW#2.

The price of paid later for a sloppy momma's boy military is now well
documented. Sadly.

Not true. There were more people killed in WW#2 from accidents than
combat. The first thing that happened after Monty hit the beach in
Sicily, was a wave of US bombers out of Libya bombed the **** out of
them. I'd call that sloppy, and probably ****ing stupid.

Hey, what about Malmedy? It was bad enough that Pieper pulled the machine
gunning of PW's, but you also had the USAAF (inluding one raid by Art's
beloved B-26's) hit the town not once but *twice* while it was in allied
hands! Strangely, this would have been during the time when Art has
claimed
he was sent forward to man the trenches--now why would the USAAF have sent
a
bombadier forward to do that instead of manning his aircraft? One wonders
how proficient ol' Art really was at his specialty if that was the case...

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?

During the bulge.

Incompetent management.

Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 10:21 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?

During the bulge.

Incompetent management.


The bulge was over a two week period. On EXACTLY what dates do you claim we hit
Malmedy.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer

"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 10:21 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?

During the bulge.

Incompetent management.


The bulge was over a two week period. On EXACTLY what dates do you claim
we hit
Malmedy.

You can do your own news search old fool.

I am a National Guard alumni.

Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 10:31 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 10:21 AM Pacific Standard Time
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message
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ubject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering"
Date: 2/28/04 8:01 AM Pacific Standard Time

Yes, it was the 344th that bombed Malmedy twice.

On what dates?

During the bulge.

Incompetent management.


The bulge was over a two week period. On EXACTLY what dates do you claim
we hit
Malmedy.

You can do your own news search old fool.

I am a National Guard alumni.


And you are a ****ing liar.


Arthur Kramer
344th BG 494th BS
England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany
Visit my WW II B-26 website at:
http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer