How difficult, Jeb Corliss wing suit stunt?

On 2/13/2012 6:19 AM, Keith W wrote:
Daryl wrote:
On 2/9/2012 8:24 PM, John Doe wrote:
I am not a pilot, but familiar with flight simulation. I know that
gliding limits your ability to control altitude. This is extremely
risky?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQc7...feature=colike

Mainly curious about how difficult that was.
Thanks.
After viewing it and the runup to it, it's not a stunt that is
that life threatening. He had a whole group of experts to help
him all along the way. They knew, with certainie, that it would
be successful. NO errors could be made though which could have
had disastrous affects. He didn't make any and it was successful.

I note that many of have stated that he is more than a little
nuts. Not in this case. He is a craftsman and surrounds himself
with other craftsmen that makes what appears to be impossible to
be possible.
You do know that he had to be airlifted to hospital last month
after one of his carefully crafted stunts went wrong.
As the saying goes "**** happens'

People walking across streets get hit by buses.
Painter falls off roof
BASE jumper hits something on the way down..
Little old lady slips in street and breaks her neck of femur..

George152 wrote:
On 2/13/2012 6:19 AM, Keith W wrote:
Daryl wrote:
On 2/9/2012 8:24 PM, John Doe wrote:
I am not a pilot, but familiar with flight simulation. I know that
gliding limits your ability to control altitude. This is extremely
risky?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQc7...feature=colike

Mainly curious about how difficult that was.
Thanks.
After viewing it and the runup to it, it's not a stunt that is
that life threatening. He had a whole group of experts to help
him all along the way. They knew, with certainie, that it would
be successful. NO errors could be made though which could have
had disastrous affects. He didn't make any and it was successful.

I note that many of have stated that he is more than a little
nuts. Not in this case. He is a craftsman and surrounds himself
with other craftsmen that makes what appears to be impossible to
be possible.
You do know that he had to be airlifted to hospital last month
after one of his carefully crafted stunts went wrong.
As the saying goes "**** happens'

People walking across streets get hit by buses.

Usually as a result of not looking before they step off the
footpath.

Painter falls off roof

Usually because they are not using properly secured scaffolding

BASE jumper hits something on the way down..

As a result of taking an uncessary risk - there seems to be a
pattern developing here.

Keith

BASE jumper hits something on the way down..

As a result of taking an uncessary risk - there seems to be a
pattern developing here.

Keith

Pot meet kettle. US glider pilots aren't in a statistically sound
position to criticize BASE jumpers right now...

wrote:
BASE jumper hits something on the way down..

As a result of taking an uncessary risk - there seems to be a
pattern developing here.

Keith

Pot meet kettle. US glider pilots aren't in a statistically sound
position to criticize BASE jumpers right now...

If I were a US Glider pilot that might have some relevance
but as I am not I don't see it.

Keith

On Feb 13, 1:45*pm, "
wrote:

Pot meet kettle. *US glider pilots aren't in a statistically sound
position to criticize BASE jumpers right now...

I don't think that that is a particularly constructive way to address
that avenue of discussion.

As bad a couple of years as soaring has had for 2010 and 2011, I'd put
our safety numbers in incidents per hour of exposure or even incidents
per exposure cycle up against those of BASE jumping any day of the
week and twice on Sunday.

Thanks, Bob K.

On 2/14/2012 11:10 AM, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Feb 13, 1:45 pm,
wrote:

Pot meet kettle. US glider pilots aren't in a statistically sound
position to criticize BASE jumpers right now...
I don't think that that is a particularly constructive way to address
that avenue of discussion.

As bad a couple of years as soaring has had for 2010 and 2011, I'd put
our safety numbers in incidents per hour of exposure or even incidents
per exposure cycle up against those of BASE jumping any day of the
week and twice on Sunday.

Thanks, Bob K.
Perhaps you should consider the numbers of BASE jumpers against the
numbers of solo glider pilots with a Silver 'C' badge level of experience...
Aviation, no matter what or how we fly, is inherently dangerous.

On Feb 13, 5:30*pm, George152 wrote:
On 2/14/2012 11:10 AM, Bob Kuykendall wrote: On Feb 13, 1:45 pm,
wrote:

Pot meet kettle. *US glider pilots aren't in a statistically sound
position to criticize BASE jumpers right now...
I don't think that that is a particularly constructive way to address
that avenue of discussion.

As bad a couple of years as soaring has had for 2010 and 2011, I'd put
our safety numbers in incidents per hour of exposure or even incidents
per exposure cycle up against those of BASE jumping any day of the
week and twice on Sunday.

Thanks, Bob K.

Perhaps you should consider the numbers of BASE jumpers against the
numbers of solo glider pilots with a Silver 'C' badge level of experience....
Aviation, no matter what or how we fly, is inherently dangerous.

You are wrong. Aviation or at least commercial aviation is inherently
safe.

On Feb 13, 4:40*pm, Dean Markley wrote:

You are wrong. *Aviation or at least commercial aviation is inherently
safe.

I don't necessarily agree with that. The phrase I use to describe
aviation is "statistically safe, but inherently unforgiving."

To me, the phrase "inherently safe" refers to an activity that has few
if any operational modes where constant alertness and engagement is a
prerequisite for continued survival. I think that something is
"inherently safe" when you can turn your back on it, go to sleep, and
expect to wake up an hour later in good health. That covers the vast
majority of aviation passengers, but certainly not pilots. As the old
joke goes, I want to die in my sleep like grandpa, not screaming in
terror like his passengers.

Thanks, Bob K.

On Feb 13, 2:30*pm, George152 wrote:

Perhaps you should consider the numbers of BASE jumpers against the
numbers of solo glider pilots with a Silver 'C' badge level of experience....
Aviation, no matter what or how we fly, is inherently dangerous.

I never said soaring was perfectly safe. I wouldn't say that, because
I'm pretty sure it's not true. All I asserted was that BASE jumping is
less safe than soaring in terms of per-hour or per-cycle exposure.

If you can cite peer-reviewed statistics that demonstrate otherwise, I
am certainly open to changing my mind on this.

Thanks, Bob K.

On Feb 13, 8:05*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Feb 13, 2:30*pm, George152 wrote:

Perhaps you should consider the numbers of BASE jumpers against the
numbers of solo glider pilots with a Silver 'C' badge level of experience...
Aviation, no matter what or how we fly, is inherently dangerous.

I never said soaring was perfectly safe. I wouldn't say that, because
I'm pretty sure it's not true. All I asserted was that BASE jumping is
less safe than soaring in terms of per-hour or per-cycle exposure.

If you can cite peer-reviewed statistics that demonstrate otherwise, I
am certainly open to changing my mind on this.

Thanks, Bob K.

There were 2 BASE fatalities in the US last year. Soaring is far more
dangerous then we give it credit for.