F-101 IR Target Seeker Head.

"Mike Marron"
And it's been nothing but downhill for the RCAF ever since....

You sure have that right Mike. There is an election in the air and all
kinds of promises are being made for new spending. Note, I said "PROMISES"!
I'll believe it when I see it! The newest procurement has been two luxury
Challenger jets used as taxies by the politicians. Just shows you where
their priorities lie! Most of the air fleet needs replacement and
up-grading. The Herc C-130, the Aurora, the Buffalo, the Sea King, CF-18.
We are replacing SAR choppers with the Cormorant but from what I read in the
papers they are having teething problems. The Army and the Navy are even in
worse shape.
It's going to cost BIG bucks and many years to do this if Canada wants to
maintain an effective, even a small military. At least there is some public
support out there after many years of indifference! Sure glad I'm retired.
Ed

"Mike Marron"
And it's been nothing but downhill for the RCAF ever since....

Just an add on Mike.

End of WWII - ~1 million in uniform - population approx 12 million
1958 - RCAF around 51,000 - total three services around 110,000 -
population ~20 million.
1966 - Amalgamation of the three services into the CAF!

Today - Canadian Forces - between 50-58,000 estimated
- population around 33 million.

Good thing we are under the US umbrella! It's time we held up our end!

"Ed Majden" wrote in message
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"Mike Marron"
And it's been nothing but downhill for the RCAF ever since....

Just an add on Mike.

End of WWII - ~1 million in uniform - population approx 12 million
1958 - RCAF around 51,000 - total three services around 110,000 -
population ~20 million.
1966 - Amalgamation of the three services into the CAF!

Today - Canadian Forces - between 50-58,000 estimated
- population around 33 million.

Good thing we are under the US umbrella! It's time we held up our end!

Or started paying US taxes under protectorate status.

Canadians have "free healthcare" @ $1500 a month instead.

"Tarver Engineering"
Canadians have "free healthcare" @ $1500 a month instead.

Heathcare is far from free! Just check our income tax rates. At least
in Canada everyones in the same boat and is covered. Your not turned away
at the door if you don't have a healthy bank account or credit card. You
won't get any support in Canada if you try and tamper with our medicare
system. We spend less per capita on Medicare than you do in the USA under
your system. Anyway, this doesn't have much to do with a military aviation
newsgroup, does it!

"Ed Majden" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering"
Canadians have "free healthcare" @ $1500 a month instead.

Heathcare is far from free! Just check our income tax rates. At
least
in Canada everyones in the same boat and is covered. Your not turned away
at the door if you don't have a healthy bank account or credit card.

If a Canadian has a healthy bank account or credit card they drive South,
much like Canada's college graduates.

You
won't get any support in Canada if you try and tamper with our medicare
system.

Health care is already rationed in Canada, we won't have to do more than
point out the holes in the system to keep it out of the US. When AIDS his
Canada hard the
"managers" of the "free healthcare" system decided to ration breast cancer
treatment to pay for it. If a Canadian woman went without treatment for 6
months she could get a bus ticket to Vermont and care. After the
statistical evidence was there to prove Canada was letting women die some
additional funding was found, but healthcare is not a selling point for
Canadian society anymore.

We spend less per capita on Medicare than you do in the USA under
your system. Anyway, this doesn't have much to do with a military
aviation
newsgroup, does it!

Actually, I can get full coverage for a family of 6 for less than $500 and a
$2000 deductable. I would pay three times that as a Canadian, except for
the deductable. Too bad for me if my family's illness is not politically
correct in Canada that year.

I'll still take our system over yours anyday.

Tarver Engineering wrote:

"Ed Majden" wrote in message
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"Tarver Engineering"


Canadians have "free healthcare" @ $1500 a month instead.



Heathcare is far from free! Just check our income tax rates. At


least


in Canada everyones in the same boat and is covered. Your not turned away
at the door if you don't have a healthy bank account or credit card.



If a Canadian has a healthy bank account or credit card they drive South,
much like Canada's college graduates.



You
won't get any support in Canada if you try and tamper with our medicare
system.



Health care is already rationed in Canada, we won't have to do more than
point out the holes in the system to keep it out of the US. When AIDS his
Canada hard the
"managers" of the "free healthcare" system decided to ration breast cancer
treatment to pay for it. If a Canadian woman went without treatment for 6
months she could get a bus ticket to Vermont and care. After the
statistical evidence was there to prove Canada was letting women die some
additional funding was found, but healthcare is not a selling point for
Canadian society anymore.



We spend less per capita on Medicare than you do in the USA under
your system. Anyway, this doesn't have much to do with a military


aviation


newsgroup, does it!



Actually, I can get full coverage for a family of 6 for less than $500 and a
$2000 deductable. I would pay three times that as a Canadian, except for
the deductable. Too bad for me if my family's illness is not politically
correct in Canada that year.

"Dom Sasco" wrote in message ...
I'll still take our system over yours anyday.

The US rejected the Canadian single payor system in 1994.

Bill Clinton's political agenda ended with Hillarycare and he never recovered power; politically hamstrung for the next six years.

On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:43:51 GMT, "Ed Majden" wrote:


"Tarver Engineering"
Canadians have "free healthcare" @ $1500 a month instead.

Heathcare is far from free! Just check our income tax rates. At least
in Canada everyones in the same boat and is covered. Your not turned away
at the door if you don't have a healthy bank account or credit card. You
won't get any support in Canada if you try and tamper with our medicare
system. We spend less per capita on Medicare than you do in the USA under
your system. Anyway, this doesn't have much to do with a military aviation
newsgroup, does it!

No, it doesn't, but one quick note, it is illegal for any health care provider in the
US to refuse to treat someone for an acute condition. And we do not have
long waiting lists for procedures.

Al Minyard

"Alan Minyard" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 07 Mar 2004 18:43:51 GMT, "Ed Majden" wrote:


"Tarver Engineering"
Canadians have "free healthcare" @ $1500 a month instead.

Heathcare is far from free! Just check our income tax rates. At
least
in Canada everyones in the same boat and is covered. Your not turned
away
at the door if you don't have a healthy bank account or credit card. You
won't get any support in Canada if you try and tamper with our medicare
system. We spend less per capita on Medicare than you do in the USA
under
your system. Anyway, this doesn't have much to do with a military
aviation
newsgroup, does it!

No, it doesn't, but one quick note, it is illegal for any health care
provider in the
US to refuse to treat someone for an acute condition. And we do not have
long waiting lists for procedures.

The fantasy of "free healthcare" in Canada disadvantaging Military spending
in Canada.

There is always the issue of guns, or butter. The other posters might want
to note that it is medicare costs that Greenspan identified as the real near
term problem for the US budget. Canada is just a little farther down that
timeline than the US.

Heathcare is far from free! Just check our income tax rates. At least
in Canada everyones in the same boat and is covered. Your not turned away
at the door if you don't have a healthy bank account or credit card. You
won't get any support in Canada if you try and tamper with our medicare
system. We spend less per capita on Medicare than you do in the USA under
your system. Anyway, this doesn't have much to do with a military aviation
newsgroup, does it!

No, it doesn't, but one quick note, it is illegal for any health care
provider in the
US to refuse to treat someone for an acute condition. And we do not have
long waiting lists for procedures.

Al Minyard

When I used to do EMS flying, it was that way too. Once public authority such
as police, fire, ambulance, emt, hospital called us for a flight, we had to go.
There was no finding out first if there would be payment guaranteed. That was
an issue to be worked out after the flight.


Ron
Tanker 65, C-54E (DC-4)