How difficult, Jeb Corliss wing suit stunt?

On Feb 13, 8:00*pm, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Feb 13, 4:40*pm, Dean Markley wrote:

You are wrong. *Aviation or at least commercial aviation is inherently
safe.

I don't necessarily agree with that. The phrase I use to describe
aviation is "statistically safe, but inherently unforgiving."

To me, the phrase "inherently safe" refers to an activity that has few
if any operational modes where constant alertness and engagement is a
prerequisite for continued survival. I think that something is
"inherently safe" when you can turn your back on it, go to sleep, and
expect to wake up an hour later in good health. That covers the vast
majority of aviation passengers, but certainly not pilots. As the old
joke goes, I want to die in my sleep like grandpa, not screaming in
terror like his passengers.

Thanks, Bob K.

That's a reasonable clarification Bob. But I'd also argue that the
universe is constantly in opposition to your definition. After all,
there are comets, asteroids, etc. out there with our name on them.

On 2/15/2012 9:01 AM, Brad wrote:
On Feb 14, 11:13 am, wrote:
On 2/14/2012 7:03 PM, George152 wrote:







On Mon, 13 Feb 2012 17:05:56 -0800 (PST), Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Feb 13, 2:30 pm, wrote:
Perhaps you should consider the numbers of BASE jumpers against the
numbers of solo glider pilots with a Silver 'C' badge level of experience...
Aviation, no matter what or how we fly, is inherently dangerous.
I never said soaring was perfectly safe. I wouldn't say that, because
I'm pretty sure it's not true. All I asserted was that BASE jumping is
less safe than soaring in terms of per-hour or per-cycle exposure.
If you can cite peer-reviewed statistics that demonstrate otherwise, I
am certainly open to changing my mind on this.
Thanks, Bob K.
Please get your story straight and don't post drunk.
Some-one posting playing silly buggers.
George,

don't you have to run and hide from an in-coming asteroid?

better run along now and let the sailplane guys argue about sailplane
stuff, leave the base-jumping topics to a relevant forum.........ok?


What part of wing suit eluded you ?
It's still flying

On Feb 9, 8:24*pm, John Doe wrote:
I am not a pilot, but familiar with flight simulation. I know that
gliding limits your ability to control altitude. This is extremely
risky?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQc7...feature=colike

Mainly curious about how difficult that was.
Thanks.

http://xkcd.com/962/

Brilliant!

PS. Jeb was trying too hard. You can get that amount of adrenaline just
being a passenger in a minibus taxi in Cape Town...

On 2012/02/16 4:44 AM, Frank Whiteley wrote:
On Feb 9, 8:24 pm, John wrote:
I am not a pilot, but familiar with flight simulation. I know that
gliding limits your ability to control altitude. This is extremely
risky?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQc7...feature=colike

Mainly curious about how difficult that was.
Thanks.

http://xkcd.com/962/

--
Bruce Greeff
T59D #1771 & Std Cirrus #57

On Feb 9, 9:24*pm, John Doe wrote:
I am not a pilot, but familiar with flight simulation. I know that
gliding limits your ability to control altitude. This is extremely
risky?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFQc7...feature=colike

Mainly curious about how difficult that was.
Thanks.

Here's the recent impact with Table Mountain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFCQ...layer_embedded

Richard the.sargon gmail.com wrote:

Here's the recent impact with Table Mountain:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEFCQ...layer_embedded

I think it's the first time a wing suit flyer has struck an
earthly object and lived. No doubt the first time it's been
filmed. I am amazed that he was able to open the parachute before
striking the ground. That is as close to dying spectacularly as
you can get.

On Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:03:38 -0000, Keith W wrote:

As the pioneer Air mail pilot E. Hamilton Lee said

Don't be a show-off.
Never be too proud to turn back.
There are old pilots and bold pilots, but no old, bold pilots.

Which he absconded from Terence McKenna who proffered:

"There are old shamans
There are bold shamans
But there are no old, bold shamans."

Suggesting a hint of bravery and good sense go hand in hand when hand
to mouth with psychoactive plants.

John Doe writes:

Dave Doe hard work.ok wrote:

John Doe jdoe usenetlove.invalid wrote:

I am not a pilot, but familiar with flight simulation. I know
that gliding limits your ability to control altitude. This is
extremely risky?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...VRJowk#t=80 s

Mainly curious about how difficult that was.
Thanks.

Nearly died a month or so ago, Jan 16th...
http://youtu.be/N2nlVUuDh_o

This is about the trip to the hospital.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejFFy...feature=colike

The fact that he didn't die and that he was able to deploy his
shoot is incredible IMO. If he were clowning around, I might agree
with the prior "unnecessary risks" comment. But he knows what the
risks are. Our special forces take risks like that, perhaps for a
better purpose but not as much fun.

Well, they're clearly not "necessary", given that he isn't doing
anything that has any bigger purpose than having fun. But yeah, he
shows some signs of understanding what he's doing, being prepared to do
HIS part in an emergency, and being pretty careful. Still, as you say,
he just got hurt pretty bad.
--
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Daryl writes:

On 2/10/2012 9:12 PM, John Doe wrote:
Our special forces take risks like that, perhaps for a better
purpose

No disrespect intended, it just depends on the politic in charge.

Wrong, As dangerous as a Specops mission is, they are well thought
out and executed and normally are highly successful.

I think the "politic in charge" remark was about "perhaps for a better
purpose".
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On Feb 11, 8:29*am, John Doe wrote:
Daryl dhunt nospami70west3.com wrote:
John Doe wrote:
Our special forces take risks like that
Wrong,

Bull****.

As dangerous as a Specops mission is,

You just contradicted yourself.

they are well thought out and executed and normally are highly
successful.

Well thought out and risky = difficult.

SF is rarely a bunch of hotdogs.

You mean like on TV? Of course not. Then again, Jeb Corliss
doesn't use a stuntman or props.

They know their job and do it probably beyond human capability

Are you in a movie?

but chance takers they aren't.

You are playing semantics. I'm not interested in playing semantics.

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When it appears that it's impossible means they failed somewhere
along the way and their people die in the process. *When it looks
almost supernatural in the success, it's from superior planning
and execution of the mission. *Almost all missions have been
successful.

Then you should go away instead of coming here if your objective is to
challenge people if you don't get satisfaction to your question.
Likewise if you don't like the answer to your question don't ask it.