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Old August 4th 12, 04:50 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Dave Nadler
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On Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:28:40 AM UTC-4, kirk.stant wrote:
However, I have to admit I would prefer the cockpit
configuration to be tandem instead of side-by-side.


Add my vote for side-by-side. I still have my whale
(RHJ-8), and most pilots have really enjoyed the
seating. No shouting back and forth down a long tube,
MUCH friendlier for rides, shared set of instruments.
Easier for instructor to see what's going on with
student and hit him. Visibility impact is not so much !

CG management is more challenging especially if
pilots are far enough in front of wing for good
visibility.

Much-appreciated side-by-side designs include
Platypus and Akaflieg Darmstadt D41 (sadly no
more). Most pilots who have flown these really
like the arrangement !

Always lots of opinions out there ;-)
Best Regards, Dave
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Old August 4th 12, 05:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Mike C
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The Taurus is available now. Side by side seating modern carbon construction and decent performance.

On Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:50:07 AM UTC-6, Dave Nadler wrote:
On Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:28:40 AM UTC-4, kirk.stant wrote:

However, I have to admit I would prefer the cockpit


configuration to be tandem instead of side-by-side.




Add my vote for side-by-side. I still have my whale

(RHJ-8), and most pilots have really enjoyed the

seating. No shouting back and forth down a long tube,

MUCH friendlier for rides, shared set of instruments.

Easier for instructor to see what's going on with

student and hit him. Visibility impact is not so much !



CG management is more challenging especially if

pilots are far enough in front of wing for good

visibility.



Much-appreciated side-by-side designs include

Platypus and Akaflieg Darmstadt D41 (sadly no

more). Most pilots who have flown these really

like the arrangement !



Always lots of opinions out there ;-)

Best Regards, Dave


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Old August 4th 12, 07:56 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Kuykendall
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Default Open Class Super-Ship from Windward Performance

On Aug 4, 9:09*am, Mike C wrote:

The Taurus is available now...


Absolutely. However, one the primary goals of the Aurora project is to
keep as much of the investment in the US as practical, and as much of
if it in the US soaring community as possible.

I wouldn't be entirely averse to outsourcing some of the parts, but
I'd like to keep all of the most steeply value-add portions of the
process onshore. It will promote soaring from the production line all
the way to the flight line.

Thanks, Bob K.
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Old August 4th 12, 08:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Bob Kuykendall
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On Aug 4, 8:50*am, Dave Nadler wrote:

Add my vote for side-by-side. I still have my whale
(RHJ-8), and most pilots have really enjoyed the
seating. No shouting back and forth down a long tube,
MUCH friendlier for rides, shared set of instruments.
Easier for instructor to see what's going on with
student and hit him. Visibility impact is not so much !

CG management is more challenging especially if
pilots are far enough in front of wing for good
visibility...


Thanks, Dave! I have always been inspired by Henry Preiss's designs,
and by the practical get-it-done development ethic that let him and
Dick Schreder toss so many two-seaters into the sky.

The reason the canopy rail is so low on the sides is to promote
visibility down and offside, which is sometimes sub-par in side-by-
side designs.

Bob K.
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Old August 4th 12, 08:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Firth
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the heading now seems off-topic.
Among many mods to my RHJ-8 were two ballast boxes
under the knees, and a 10lb slug to slide into the tail cone
for 2 pilots of over 300 lb total.
Easy and quick CG control.
John F


At 19:03 04 August 2012, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Aug 4, 8:50=A0am, Dave Nadler wrote:

Add my vote for side-by-side. I still have my whale
(RHJ-8), and most pilots have really enjoyed the
seating. No shouting back and forth down a long tube,
MUCH friendlier for rides, shared set of instruments.
Easier for instructor to see what's going on with
student and hit him. Visibility impact is not so much !

CG management is more challenging especially if
pilots are far enough in front of wing for good
visibility...


Thanks, Dave! I have always been inspired by Henry Preiss's designs,
and by the practical get-it-done development ethic that let him and
Dick Schreder toss so many two-seaters into the sky.

The reason the canopy rail is so low on the sides is to promote
visibility down and offside, which is sometimes sub-par in side-by-
side designs.

Bob K.


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Old August 4th 12, 08:51 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
John Firth
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Default Open Class Super-Ship from Windward Performance

the heading now seems off-topic.
Among many mods to my RHJ-8 were two ballast boxes
under the knees, and a 10lb slug to slide into the tail cone
for 2 pilots of over 300 lb total.
Easy and quick CG control.
John F


At 19:03 04 August 2012, Bob Kuykendall wrote:
On Aug 4, 8:50=A0am, Dave Nadler wrote:

Add my vote for side-by-side. I still have my whale
(RHJ-8), and most pilots have really enjoyed the
seating. No shouting back and forth down a long tube,
MUCH friendlier for rides, shared set of instruments.
Easier for instructor to see what's going on with
student and hit him. Visibility impact is not so much !

CG management is more challenging especially if
pilots are far enough in front of wing for good
visibility...


Thanks, Dave! I have always been inspired by Henry Preiss's designs,
and by the practical get-it-done development ethic that let him and
Dick Schreder toss so many two-seaters into the sky.

The reason the canopy rail is so low on the sides is to promote
visibility down and offside, which is sometimes sub-par in side-by-
side designs.

Bob K.


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Old August 4th 12, 09:09 PM posted to rec.aviation.soaring
Wayne Paul
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Default Open Class Super-Ship from Windward Performance

For those of you who are unfamiliar with the RHJ-8, here is a link that you
might find interesting.
http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder/RHJ/C-FAJT.html

Wayne
http:/www.soaridaho.com/Schreder



"Dave Nadler" wrote in message
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On Saturday, August 4, 2012 9:28:40 AM UTC-4, kirk.stant wrote:
However, I have to admit I would prefer the cockpit
configuration to be tandem instead of side-by-side.


Add my vote for side-by-side. I still have my whale
(RHJ-8), and most pilots have really enjoyed the
seating. No shouting back and forth down a long tube,
MUCH friendlier for rides, shared set of instruments.
Easier for instructor to see what's going on with
student and hit him. Visibility impact is not so much !

CG management is more challenging especially if
pilots are far enough in front of wing for good
visibility.

Much-appreciated side-by-side designs include
Platypus and Akaflieg Darmstadt D41 (sadly no
more). Most pilots who have flown these really
like the arrangement !

Always lots of opinions out there ;-)
Best Regards, Dave


 




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