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On Aug 16, 1:49 pm, wrote:"" snip
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...65fa6aeb70c8e8 On Aug 16, 1:57 pm, wrote:"Google is your friend and I could give a rat's ass whether you believe it or not or choose to just listen to distilled propaganda without doing your own research. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...9d43729eecac0b i did my own research, its valid, logical and well reasoned, your weak/ invalid attempts challenging my research have been shown one by one to be pathetic illogical, irrational using "distilled propaganda" as you call it. I have provided valid sources credible source which back my argument, on the other hand you have done nothing of the sort. On Aug 16, 11:43 am, columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...9ab20fd4835bef You incorrectly tried to isolate the argument, which contradicts your blanket statement “Everything is subject to tampering”. Then you ignorantly tried to argue the vetting was full proof and produces a secure environment, which was proven false by my links, and contradicted by your blanket statement. Then you argued that because poll workers "take the whole thing very seriously", a secure environment would be produced which has been proven false by my links showing a breach of a secure environment, therefore based on your logic some dont take the "whole thing seriously". Then you argued that "anal little old ladies" would produce a secure environment, and my link showed the "anal little old ladies" doing "funny business", a failure in your vetting and a demonstration of your false sense of security. My link showed that in spite of the presence of “room monitors”, and the vetting process, and anal little old ladies a poll worker left with the poll stole a “voter roster”, a camera phone image would have less evidence. My links establish the ignorance of your argument, while at the same time showing identity theft could potentially be committed by poll worker(s) with good memory by matching the stolen or digitally imaged voting roster to the ID’s presented (date of birth, DL #). The point is by mandating the presentation of personal information without protection at the polling place, you are making it easier to conduct identity theft. I have stated increasing the risk, and your weak attempts to marginalize the risk have failed. My other links have shown the dangers of sharing personal information in a public setting (shoulder surfing etc.), which inherently means people should do things to reduce the risk, not keep acting with a false sense of security. The "whoop-de-do" on you part is that you know your argument of a secure vetted environment have been proven to be false, and that was your childish way of admitting so. Now your argument is an illogical assumption that if the crime has not been committed it cannot occur, which is a false sense of security based on ignorance. http://www.policeandsheriffspress.com/vic/ "Welcome Welcome to the Georgia Voter ID System website! This site has been created for you the Georgia Voter Registrar. As you can see from the menu there are copies of the Quick Reference Guide, Training Manual, Frequently Asked Questions section, and Contact Information. We hope that you enjoy using this site and find it to be helpful." http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/...tenced-for-ste... "S.F. poll worker sentenced for stealing ballots... He had with him multipage ballots, the voter roster, a memory card that recorded the votes cast, a voting machine access key and a poll worker's cell phone, police said. Nicholas was arrested at his home in the Ingleside early the next morning, and about 75 ballots were found in the lagoon two days after election day. He pleaded guilty in December to unlawfully carrying away or destroying a poll list and ballots, in violation of the state elections code" https://www.privacyrights.org/fs/fs17-it.htm "The crime of identity theft is on the rise. According to a February 2012 Javelin Study, identity theft rose 13% from 2010 to 2011. More than 11.6 million adults became a victim of identity theft in the United States during 2011. Identity theft was the number one complaint filed with the Federal Trade Commission's Consumer Sentinel during 2011." Using a variety of methods, criminals steal Social Security numbers, driver's licenses, credit card numbers, ATM cards, telephone calling cards, and other pieces of individuals' identities such as date of birth. They use this information to impersonate their victims, spending as much money as they can in as short a time as possible before moving on to someone else's name and identifying information." http://www.businesscreditfacts.com/p...ource-Identity "Beware of shoulder surfers. Protect credit cards, driver's licenses and checks from wandering eyes. http://www.privacy.ca.gov/consumers/...ty_theft.shtml "Identity Theft Identity Theft First Aid Identity theft is taking someone else's personal information and using it for an unlawful purpose (California Penal Code Section 530.5). It is a serious crime with serious consequences. There were 11.6 million U.S. adults who were victims of identity theft in 2011. That represents 4.9% of adults, including over a million Californians. The total cost of identity theft in 2011 was $18 billion. The average victim spent $354 and 12 hours to resolve the problem and clear up records." http://its.virginia.edu/security/idtheft/ http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan...tion/na-ohio25 "Ohio poll workers convicted January 25, 2007 CLEVELAND — Two election workers were convicted Wednesday of rigging a recount of the 2004 presidential election to avoid a more thorough review in Ohio's most populous county. Jacqueline Maiden, elections coordinator of the Cuyahoga County Elections Board, and ballot manager Kathleen Dreamer each were convicted of a felony count of negligent misconduct by an elections employee. They also were convicted of one misdemeanor count each of failure to perform their duty as elections employees." |
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In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
A bunch of rambling, run on, puerile, illogical nonsense, as usual and posted it to a group where it has no relevance. |
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On Aug 16, 2:43*pm, wrote:
In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: A bunch of rambling, run on, puerile, illogical nonsense, as usual and posted it to a group where it has no relevance. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...37a3319d0768a7 Laughing, that would apply to your "anal old ladies" assurance that no id theft can occur at the polls. |
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In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote:
On Aug 16, 2:43Â*pm, wrote: In rec.aviation.piloting columbiaaccidentinvestigation wrote: A bunch of rambling, run on, puerile, illogical nonsense, as usual and posted it to a group where it has no relevance. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.g...37a3319d0768a7 Laughing, that would apply to your "anal old ladies" assurance that no id theft can occur at the polls. Logical thinking just isn't your forte, is it, nor is being able to write beyond a 4th grade level or knowing what USENET groups are appropriate for what? |
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