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If glider racing were an athletic endeavor like gymnastics or football then it would not seem inappropriate or out of the ordinary to recieve real time advice from others during competition.

But glider racing is a thinking endeavor, more like chess. It certainly isn't reasonable or acceptable for chess players to receive advise from others about how to get out of a predicament. Why is it reasonable for glider racers to get outside advise about what would be the best next move?

Only the brain(s) onboard should participate during actual competition. The US has it right in this case and should not yield to a bad idea even if others have.

For pure athletic reasons I agree. External advice will not help level the playing field. But most guys fly competitions because its fun and radio contact definitely helps enjoy our sometimes lonely sport.

maanantai, 24. joulukuuta 2012 7.42.22 UTC+2 Steve Koerner kirjoitti:
If glider racing were an athletic endeavor like gymnastics or football then it would not seem inappropriate or out of the ordinary to recieve real time advice from others during competition.



But glider racing is a thinking endeavor, more like chess. It certainly isn't reasonable or acceptable for chess players to receive advise from others about how to get out of a predicament. Why is it reasonable for glider racers to get outside advise about what would be the best next move?



Only the brain(s) onboard should participate during actual competition. The US has it right in this case and should not yield to a bad idea even if others have.

What makes you think every advice you hear from the radio is useful?

My first lesson in comp. flying almost 2 decades ago was: Never believe a word you hear from the radio during competition. If there is some important things said, it is usually "coded" in a way that it is useless to anyone execpt the guy it was meant to: "Planned start time A+5min ", "Turn left 30 degrees after Z" etc. You'll learn the tricks in no time.

On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 12:43:37 AM UTC-5, rk wrote:
maanantai, 24. joulukuuta 2012 7.42.22 UTC+2 Steve Koerner kirjoitti:

If glider racing were an athletic endeavor like gymnastics or football then it would not seem inappropriate or out of the ordinary to recieve real time advice from others during competition.







But glider racing is a thinking endeavor, more like chess. It certainly isn't reasonable or acceptable for chess players to receive advise from others about how to get out of a predicament. Why is it reasonable for glider racers to get outside advise about what would be the best next move?







Only the brain(s) onboard should participate during actual competition. The US has it right in this case and should not yield to a bad idea even if others have.



What makes you think every advice you hear from the radio is useful?



My first lesson in comp. flying almost 2 decades ago was: Never believe a word you hear from the radio during competition. If there is some important things said, it is usually "coded" in a way that it is useless to anyone execpt the guy it was meant to: "Planned start time A+5min ", "Turn left 30 degrees after Z" etc. You'll learn the tricks in no time.

(The following is a repost as the first apparently didn't go. Sorry id it duplicates

If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS text each other. Rules are for fools. The less the better.

On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote:

If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS text each other.

Texting while flying? ;(

Just like while driving, only now they'll more likely kill themselves than
me on my motorcycle.


"son_of_flubber" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote:

If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS
text each other.

Texting while flying? ;(

On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:13:17 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just like while driving, only now they'll more likely kill themselves than

me on my motorcycle.





"son_of_flubber" wrote in message

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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote:



If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to do is SMS

text each other.



Texting while flying? ;(

OK, I'll jump in here with my flame suit on:

With today's smartphones, it's likely that you can just touch a button and "talk" to your phone to send a message. No different really than the push-to-talk on the control stick and completely "stealth".

Flame on!

On 12/26/2012 8:20 PM, SoaringXCellence wrote:
On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 7:13:17 AM UTC-8, Dan Marotta wrote:
Just like while driving, only now they'll more likely kill
themselves than

me on my motorcycle.

"son_of_flubber" wrote in message

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On Wednesday, December 26, 2012 9:14:08 AM UTC-5, Jim wrote:


If someone wanted to cheat the radio ban all they would have to
do is SMS

text each other.

Texting while flying? ;(

OK, I'll jump in here with my flame suit on:

With today's smartphones, it's likely that you can just touch a
button and "talk" to your phone to send a message. No different
really than the push-to-talk on the control stick and completely
"stealth".

Where do you guys fly, that your phones work in the air? How high are
you? I don't have much luck with phones in the Western US, which is why
I have Spot.

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